Podcasts & Music not mixing in Smart Playlists. Only music is played.

First- this is not the Podcast order problem. I mix my music in with a couple of podcasts- KCRW song of the day and The Onion, a 1 minute funny spoof newscast. I like to listen to a mix of music and these short podcasts.
Since the early days, I have been doing this. It works just fine on my old iPod Photo. However, it does not work on my Nano (3rd gen) and iPod Touch (2nd gen, 3.1.3 update).
I have set Podcasts to sync in iTunes in the profile of the Touch, and if I click the down arrow in iTunes on the iPod, and display my playlist, it shows the Podcasts all visible on my iPod (818 items, of which 675 are songs and 143 are Podcasts). And, if I go to my Touch, and select the playlist and scroll down through it, I can see all the Podcasts. But- the frustrating part- when I hit "Shuffle" to mix up the songs and play that playlist, they are missing, and the song count says "1 of 675", so it is clearly not counting the Podcasts as part of the playlist, even though the listing shows them present. Ditto on the Nano.
Does anyone have any clues what to do here? I have tried "Genre contains Podcast", etcs... If I put in "Playist is Music" which I have seen elsewhere, all podcasts disappear from the list, as they are not actually music, so I don't really understand that particular tip.

Very cool- that worked, thank you! I didn't know that was even an option, and it must have popped up sometime after I bought my iPod Photo in 2005. And I would guess that the iPod Photo ignores that setting, since it worked just fine on that device, but nothing since then.
One question- I was able to bulk-edit my three Podcast groups by clicking on the group header and applying to all. But will each subsequent Podcast (I get at least 2 new ones each day) default back to Skip, and periodically I'll have to go back and re-edit the groups? Or since I edited at Group level, does iTunes make that setting sticky for that category?
Thanks,
Jeff

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Very cool- that worked, thank you! I didn't know that was even an option, and it must have popped up sometime after I bought my iPod Photo in 2005. And I would guess that the iPod Photo ignores that setting, since it worked just fine on that device, but nothing since then.
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