Poor drive copy speed on 27" IMac??

I am a long time Mac user. My first was a 128. So I am not inexperienced with Macs. Rather than carry a computer back and forth to work, I have a computer at both at work and at home and carry my working files on an Aegis Apricorn mini Firewire 400 drive. I keep a backup of this drive at both locations. Recently I started using a 27" IMac at work. I have to use an adapter with the drive due to Apple switching to FW800. On older Macs with FW400 ports, I could backup 35 Gigs in about 25 minutes. Now this same backup takes 15 hours!
I have tried everything. I bought an Apricorn USB mini drive and tried using that. The backup requires 9 hours! The USB requires a similar amount of time on my older 24" IMac at home. From past experience, I would expect USB to be slower. My concern here is that I am guessing the fact that there is no longer a true FW400 port is the root of my problem. I suspected it could be the adpater. So I bought a different brand. Same result.
I spent an hour and a half on the phone with Apple the other day. No help. They pushed me up to an engineer. We went through everything and he agreed that the copy times were ridiculous. He took my email address and said he wanted to check this out further and would send me an email with a phone number to reach him. He never sent the email. I am getting VERY frustrated. We bought four 27" IMacs and all are having issues with slow internet speeds (one third the speed of Windows computers)and slow copy speeds to external drives. All are running 10.6.3.
Has anyone experienced this problem? Better yet... Is there a solution? We intended to expand the use of Macs in our office. Now unless we fix these problems... Nobody will want them.

Resolved this one myself with the help of a previous post. These Apricorn drives are formatted as FAT32. As soon as I formatted it to Mac OS Extended, everything was fine.

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What is the best set hard drive set up on an iMac for video editing?

what is the best set hard drive set up on an iMac for video editing? i only have one internal 2tb hard drive.

CIANCIO.mov wrote:
so is it best to edit directly off your LaCie fire wire drive, or off the internal HD and store on the external?
The second.
Which one is faster to edit with?
The internal will operate faster but editing uses both the Final Cut Application (on the internal), and the external which is used to store and access the video that you have shot and on which is stored the Capture Caches, and which also stores and accesses the various other caches such as Video Render, Waveform etc.
Does a faster hard drive decrease rendering time?
I think it must, but I have never timed it.
whats Faster, having another internal drive or a thunderbolt or firewire 800 external drive?
I think that a second internal drive would be faster than an external Firewire drive. However, a Thunderbolt drive is said to be very fast, but I do not know whether it would be faster than a conventional internal drive. This question would best be asked of the Final Cut Discussion Groups because thay might have experience.
i would love some specs, and input on different drive setups for an imac with a single 2TB Hard dirve.
Again, the discussion groups would be the best place to answer this.
enyone. thanks,
Rendering long sections of video in the Final Cut software does take a long time, especially when it is imported from another source, such as a .mov, and when something simple like a transition is inserted or even moved or altered, or a filter is applied, rendering must be carried out in that area to see the effect properly. So you are on the right lines in thinking about how to speed it up.

Fusion drive spin speed

does anyone know the spin speed of the HDD in a 2013 iMac fusion drive? The stand alone drive is 7200rpm, is it the same drive in a fusion setup?

It depends on the model, the 21 inch model has 5400rpm drives, the 27 inch models have 7200rpm drives.
Also the new iMacs utilize a PCI-e flash drive with nearly 50% better prefromance.
If your planning to buy a new iMac, i recommend the 27 inch model, i just purchase one myself and couldnt be happier.
Good luck.
Dr. C.

Question on Firewire copy speeds (Help?)

My 2011 MacBook Pro 2.2/750/8 only has firewire 800. It seems my copy speeds are rather slow.
90gb > FW800 = 35 minutes
90gb > FW800/400 adapter = 1 Hour
Both instances are using a dedicated external HD or drive dock
Is this somewhat correct?

Thanks though, for the reply.
I noticed the slower transfer rate on my first backup this past summer, but I thought it was just CCC's or Super Duper's indexing process.
Because of current HD prices, (& Instead of having to purchase another) I was consolidating data, (photos, backups from previous computers, etc.)
I was moving a single zipped/compressed file to arrive at the comparison in transfer speeds. My best guess, possibly a different chipset, or FW slightly "hobbled" because of the Thunderbolt port?
Just wondering if anyone else noticed this issue.

My external hard drive is 'seen' by my iMac and I can go into the Finder and open files and folders. I am using the hard drive for Time Machine back up. However Time Machine says it can't find the drive. Same thing has happened with Final Cut Express.

My new LaCie external hard drive is 'seen' by my iMac and I can go into the Finder and open files and folders. I am using the hard drive for Time Machine back up. However Time Machine says it can't find the drive.
The same thing happened recently between Final Cut Express and my other LaCie external hard drive used as the Scratch disk. It fixed itself.
I've run out of ideas. Help would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

have you done some searches on FCPx and time machine? Is there a known issue with using a TM drive with FCPx? dunno but ...wait...I'll take 60 sec for you cause I'm just that kind of guy.... google...." fcpx time machine problem" Frist page link
http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/fcpx-bug-best-practices-for-using-external-hard- drives-and-final-cut-pro-x/
You cannot have time machine backups on your hard drive if you intend to use it in FCPX.
booya!

Poor drive copy speed on 27" IMac??

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