Poor Performance K8N NEO4

After istallii
ng all the updated drivers on a clean system I find that the system runs slow.
Accessing the control panel takes to long, reading the disk tree takes to long, running a program also takes long.
Once the program starts it actually runs fine but it seems to take for ever toload the program up & run it.
Same with the control panel & the file explorer.
Internet acces is fast.
any ideas?
Could this be a by product of having lagre dirves *200gb?
Or perhaps due to the Raid mirroring?

ok I had to speak too soon. I'm now encountering the daym load lag again but it's not as consistent as it was before. the PSU I tested again today is a FORTRON 530W the specs are as noted... +3.3V@30/17A,+5V@44/24A,[email protected],+12V@16/28A,[email protected],+5VSB@2A. he wouldn't bring his RAM over since he's afraid it'll somehow it up and past it's RMA warranty, it's understandable though. do yall think increasing RAM voltage might possibly alleviate the issue? it's currently set at 2.65 stock. I can test PSU for figures but I don't know how to do so without load unless both the 20 pin and 4 pin connectors can be left out to test? sorry for the vulgarity but I'm starting to get frustrated as all hell.

Similar Messages

Perpetual Laggy System Performance (K8N NEO4 PLATINUM) 7125

I was playing COUNTER STRIKE the other day and all the sudden the comp restarted but failed to reboot completely, meaning no post, no nothing but HD light on constant. I started removing all devices from IDE/SATA/PCI slots to see if it would reboot...no dice. I gave it a few more tries and still no luck. I had to leave so when I came back, I went to troubleshooting again. I plugged in only my crappy low end GF4 card and IDE drives to see if it would and it did I looked through my BIOS to see if anything has faultered, since nothing was changed I decided to plug my SATA drives in and blam again no boot/post. I then reset the CMOS settings and wala it worked! went to change the settings and then XP wouldn't boot up from my SATA drive. I decided to just reinstall everything because I like to start off fresh from fatal crashes. XP finished installing and still it wouldn't boot from SATA drive. I installed all necessary SCSI/RAID drivers, yes I know it's SATA but it goes under the category of SCSI during initial XP install. I decided to repartition/reformat/reinstall and finally it booted off the SATA drive. after this nonsense was through I thought all was smooth sailing. little did I know I started encountering an annoying enormous speed decrease, every program I tried to load would take 20-50 secs (sometimes longer) to load. so I thought what the hell, I should prolly flash the BIOS. I then flashed to 1.6 and still no dice. I then went through flashing all the 1.7's and still had the same daym problem. all drivers that I installed are the most recent. I'm now perplexed what to do from here? has anyone else encountered this problem?
I also have another question, what are average temps for everyone's CPU with the stock AMD HSF?

ok I had to speak too soon. I'm now encountering the daym load lag again but it's not as consistent as it was before. the PSU I tested again today is a FORTRON 530W the specs are as noted... +3.3V@30/17A,+5V@44/24A,[email protected],+12V@16/28A,[email protected],+5VSB@2A. he wouldn't bring his RAM over since he's afraid it'll somehow it up and past it's RMA warranty, it's understandable though. do yall think increasing RAM voltage might possibly alleviate the issue? it's currently set at 2.65 stock. I can test PSU for figures but I don't know how to do so without load unless both the 20 pin and 4 pin connectors can be left out to test? sorry for the vulgarity but I'm starting to get frustrated as all hell.

K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI Microphone performance

Hi All,
1st post - sorry if this has been answered elsewhere...
I've got a K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, the one with Creative Live 24 bit onboard sound. I just got it running a few days ago. The audio playback is fine - I can play games, watch DVDs, listen to CDs, etc. No problems there. I've got the Creative drivers from the CD in the motherboard box installed, BTW
The built-in microphone input is less than I expected. I have an old, cheap microphone which works fine (I tested it yesterday) with my (old) computer with built-in sound. On my new Neo4 the recording levels are _very_ low. I've gone in to the Creative Mixer and cranked up the recording volume, as well as toggled the "do not monitor" option (what does this do, BTW?), but it has not solved the problem. I have to speak very loudly with the microphone right by my mouth to hear anything at all.
Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks!

I had the same problem on my K8N Neo2 Platinum. I had a really weak microphone that I had to get right up to my mouth before it would start to work. I solved the problem by turning on the "mic boost" option in the control panel. Finding that option was tough. Here is what I had to do:
I had to go into the control panel, get into the sound and audio devices options, hit the audio tab; next to the sound recording section is a button for Volume. Hit that, and it brings up the windows mixer. Under options, make sure the Advanced Controls is checked. Then make sure the microphone input is there. If not, select options/properties and mash down the adjust volume for recording button. Then check down below and make sure microphone is checked. Then the microphone slider should be available. Make sure it is checked. And then hopefully you will see an advanced button. Hit that and check the mic boost. That finally solved my problem.
Good luck.

MSI K8N NEO4 F support for 90nm, Venice

MSI K8N NEO4 F. Does this board support the cpu:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB, 90nm, Venice
Can not find it in the cpu compabillity list.
Anyone who have tried it ?

From Anandtec Site posting 5/22/2005:
"On another side note, we have heard several reports about 90nm Athlon 64 processors performing poorly in MSI’s K8N Neo4 product line. We will have more details for you in the near future, but if you are in between motherboards and you are also planning a 90nm purchase, you may want to stay away from the K8N until we can either verify or dispute those K8N reports. Our guess is that some new BIOSes should fix the performance issues. "
Link: http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2425&p=4

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable 3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117). This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems. By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
At the end is this warning: MSI Reminds You...
• For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
The above Antec PS specs do not show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at. The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning. I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design? We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
Regards, Ron
Antec reply to me:
>>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
Wow!! syar2003 thanks for that post. I've spend an hour going through it & fasteddies links. Now I are a power expert. The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3 recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI
>>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...).
These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI. I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster. Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage. Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
Thanks again for the teriffic help
Regards, Ron
Wondering what you settled on. I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board. I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound). If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail. It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything. Just my $0.02

Constant HDD access (K8N Neo4 Platinum)

Hello all, this is my first time posting on these forums.
A couple of days ago I put together a new system for myself, with the following components:
* Athlon64 3200+ processor
* MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard
* 1Gb RAM
* Gigabyte 128Mb GeForce 6600GT graphics card
* 2x Seagate 250Gb 7200rpm SATA drives
* LG IDE dual-layer DVD-RW drive
* Apacer 7-in-1 internal USB 2.0 card reader
* Thermaltake "soprano" ATX midi-tower w/ 400W PSU
The two hard drives I have connected to ports SATA5 and SATA6 on the motherboard and set up in a RAID1 configuration (using the on-board Silicon Image SiI 3114 RAID controller). I then installed Windows XP Professional, which went on fine. The only problem I have now is that the hard drives are being constantly accessed by the system, even when I'm doing nothing on the system. This isn't just an occasional access once every second or so, the little HDD LED just flickers away merrily the whole time. I have run both filemon and diskmon on the system, and found that while no particular files appear to be being accessed, there is almost constant write activity being performed to the hard drives.
I have narrowed it down to somehow involving the Windows XP RAID drivers. If I boot from the Windows XP install disk and load the third party drivers for the SiI 3114, I get the constant disk access when sitting at the first screen of the install process ("Welcome to Windows XP" text-only screen). If I do the same without loading the drivers (thus Windows does not recognise the RAID drive), no disk access. I have tried updating the RAID controller drivers under the Device Manager (now up to version 1.2.0.0), but it does not fix the problem. I have done a full virus and spyware scan (bearing in mind that this is a clean install), with no results. I have checked all running processes and services (including making sure Indexing Service is not running), but have been unable to find anything that could be causing this constant activity. I have yet to try actually breaking the mirror and running the drives off the normal SATA controller. I will be trying that tonight when I get home if no other solution presents itself, but obviously I would rather get it behaving properly in RAID1 if at all possible.
It's driving me crazy. There doesn't appear to be any actual issues with the performance of the machine, but the constant hard disk activity can't be good for the drives long-term. I have searched these forums for a possible solution, and while some people have had similar problems, none of the suggested solutions have worked for me so far. If anyone can help me with my dilemma, I would be Eternally Grateful(tm).

Yes! At least I'm not alone... constant disk ticking is driving me nuts too.
I have same issue with a newly built system - different board but Sil3114.
My C: is on the NF4 SATA interface, but I have 4 250GB Seagaets on the Sil3114, intended for a RAID5 array. Having installed XP, I've become distracted by the constant disk access and have been trying everything to eliminate it before proceeding with the rest of the build - nogo. Your post gave me the clue - boot with Sil3114 disabled = no disk activity; boot with enabled = constant disk flogging.
I've got the Sil driver up to 1.2.3.1 but no better. Suspect it may be the Sil3114 BIOS that needs upgrading but seems no way to flash it - have you got anywhere with your debugging?
Appreciate a solution before I go crazy with the tick, tick tick....

[Athlon64] Clear PnP Data Pool in K8N Neo4 running xp64

I recently purchased a MSI mobo, K8N Neo4, running pheonix bios. I am getting two unknown devices when booting...there are no devices loaded without drivers....so I was thinking, if I 'Clear PnP Data Pool' this should rectify the error...
Question is....how to on this mobo? I really don't want to press the reset bios button on the mobo unless there is no other way...
I've checked out Bios and can't seem to find a way to clear PnP Data...is there another way? Ie. a CMD value I can enter on the windows side?
Apart from that I'm very happy with the performance of this mobo
- An EX GIGABYTE Customer

Hello !
Strange Problem.....
You mentioned Problems with your boot-sequence and your Raid Setup. I don´t know exactly but it think this is connected with your SLI Problems. Which Bios Version are you using ? Did you try to make a CmosClear for reinitialising PNP and DMI stuff ? You should also check your Cmos onboard Battery, perhaps its empty.
I have heard about a Problems with this some revisions of this Board, Onboard Battery is emptying very fast sometimes.
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

K8N NEO4 Platinum the boat anchor from hell!

I just asembled the following:
MSI-7100-030 K8N NEO4 PlatinUm SLI
Geoforce 6800 PCIE
2 Gig DDR400
2x200Gb WD SATAII drive
2x80GB Seagfate SATA drives
2x80GB Wd IDE drives
I get terrible performance.
Takes One hour to copy a 6Gig file to another drive or folder.
Multi tasking is almos nonexixstant.
I got this board as a white box [oem].
No software or manuals.
So I Dl'd the system & raid drivers from MSI.
As i did not run well I then got updated drivers form Nvidia & from Silicone Image.
No better.
I ran a benchmark program (Passmark Perfomance Test) and was very unhappy.
Has anyone had similiar issues?
Would anyone download a copy of this software from:
http://www.passmark.com/download/pt_download.htm.
Please run the "Run All test Sequentially" icon [second from end of tolbar].
Save & email me the results at [email protected]
Should take no more than 5 minutes.
Please specify your system build for comparison.
Thanks & happy newyear!

selkov,
you don't appear to have a CPU or PSU in your system, can you tell us what they are please?

MSI K8N NEO4-F SATA ISSUE

System Specs:
MSI K8N NEO4-F
x2 512mb Corsair Xtra Low Latency 2-2-2-5
VisionTek x850XT
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum w/ Live Drive
(1) WD Raptor 10k rpm 74gb (SATA)
(1) Maxtor 300gb (SATA)
(1) Maxtor 200gb (IDE)
(1) Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
Windows XP Pro
Recently built system but I'm having SATA performance trouble. Let's start from the boot process. Sometimes when booting, the system will hang while detecting drives, and not detect my 300GB sata drive. A simple reset will sometimes fix this. If allowed to continue to boot, a blue windows XP error screen briefly flashes and the system reboots itself. Going into the bios and trying to autodetect the drive causes a long hang and no detection.
Moving into windows if everything seems to detect alright, sometimes the 300GB drive seems to function perfectly well, and for as long as my system stays up. Other times I'll go to open some sort of media on the drive (like video), and it will run rediculously slow, skipping and barely running.
I tried replacing the SATA cables, thinking that maybe they were bent too much or perhaps just bad, but after replacing them the problem seems to persist. This problem at first seemed confined to the 300GB, but my last boot to windows was crawling and anything i opened didnt respond, as the OS is housed on the raptor. So now it seems both drives are capable of this problem.
Does anyone have any incite?

Hi mjc2264,
It's the series 10 300gb maxtors that have been giving pps some issues not just with msi but all AMD64 Nvidia chipsets, its unusual to have Maxtor9 ?? give problems.
A number of things you might try:-
1) Bios Standard Cmos Features try changing the Access Mode for your 300Gb to Large instead of Auto.
2) Detection is sometimes Worse due to the Pata channel issues. If using the Nvidia IDE Drivers ensure your
Maxtor 200gb (IDE)
Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
are Jumpered explicitly as Master/Slave the NV drivers don't like CS (cable select). Ideally have 200gb on IDE1 & Samsung on ide 2.
3) If 2) gives no change Or if you feel the need Roll back The IDE drivers & try the MS Default ones
Click update driver on the Nvidia Pata driver tab in properties.
Choose install from a specific location
Select dont choose , i will choose the driver
Then select standard dual channel pci controller which is the XP 1
4) If Windows detects problems with drive access r/w errors it downgrades the drive access mode. If you have been having issues check in device manager IDE Ata/Atapi Controllers Right click properties on each tab & check access mode it s/be Serial ATA DMA for SATA & I think Ultra DMA 5 (or 6??) for Pata HD. If you find any down graded Set them back & XP will ask to reboot.
Luck

MSI K8N Neo4-F Problems

I'm on my very first build and I'm running into problems. When I power up, all the fans spin up properly and the D-Link LED's go through the usual settings but it gets stuck on the combination that the manual translates into "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller - This will initializing Floppy Drive and controller." The D-Link LED's just hang there and I've left it alone for a couple minutes and it still wouldn't budge. On the screen, sometimes I can see the POST message and other times I see nothing at all on the screen from the various times I've restarted the computer. Any idea why it's hanging on this certain combination and not booting me to the BIOS setup screens? These are my system specs...thanks:
MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice
ZALMAN CNPS7000B-AlCu Heatsink
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-380 ATX12V 380W Power Supply
OCZ Performance Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
Leadtek 6600GT

I take that into consideration! But as hardware goes, no two are exactly the same. But let's not focus on that, as I believe it could be problems elsewhere.
Posted by: Talannon
Hi!
First, the problem is I made this computer for a friend and when I boot the computer it always freeze at startup. I hear the normal bip when you start the computer then I see the first screen where it says to hit del to enter SETUP but it freeze there. I can't even go into BIOS. I have 2x512 MB in dual channel and when I remove one I can usually be able to go into the bios, then once there I check if everything is there by default ( I already reset cmos ) and it looks good then I reboot and it freeze again. I really don't know what to do...
But I will tell you the whole story. First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. Then I fix that, comp boot I go into bios. I made another error by setting the FSB speed at 400 mhz because I read that it was going at 400 (I forgot that it was 200 x 2) so I reboot and I get nothing. I reset the cmos by pressing the button then i can get into bios.
From there I changed the boot order and I make it so MSI doesn't show his logo when you boot but you get the POST instead. I exit and save then I start getting that problem... Since then I am not able to go into BIOS unless I play with the memory module. Another thing is when I can't get into BIOS I watch the 4 LEDs on the USB thing you add to the MoBo (definition here http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3 scroll down a bit). When I can't get into BIOS I get a combination (1 and 3 red) saying "testing base and Extended Memory, Testing base memory from 240k to 640K and extended memory above 1MB using various patterns" and when I changed the memory and I get into the bios (2 red) I get " Initializing Floppy Drive Controller, This will initialize Floppy Drive and controller". I got that from the book that came with the board.
The comp is:
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI NX6600 TD 256 FX6600 PCI-E
Antec SLK1650 MINI TOWER CASE 350W
Kingston 1024 MB DDR400 Dual KVR
Maxtor 120Gb S-ATA
If anyone can help I would appreciate it! Thank you!
Posted by: Talannon
I will add that I tested the ram on another computer and it works fine. Also, when I only have 1 module of ram installed he start to detect the ide drive and sata HD but when It get to the floppy it fail. From there I can go in the bios but when I restart he won't even start detecting stuff he will only freeze after he wrote the memory testing line and then I can't do nothing... or I can hit continue and it even got started with the windows xp install but it crashed, it didn't take long. Reboot and crash at verifying DMI pool data or something like that after I hit continue again after detect floppy fail.
I tried resetting the cmos then reboot and it said that my config was in overcloaking mode and to reset it on the bios... But there was nothing to change. Also tried to continue there but it stop at Verifying DMI Pool Data.
The bios installed by default is v 1.3, which is the only version there's not on the msi website... strange
Anyway I pretty much said all I could, hope someone could help but I have a feeling that the MoBo as problem...
Posted by: keymaker
hmm......try takin out all of thec computer parts out of the computer case and this time only reseat the following devices: case, motherboard, cpu, ram, and videocard.
also try replacing the floppy cable and see if the computer will be able to detect the floppy this time. good luck
Posted by: Talannon
It still freeze the same way with only cpu ram and video card on mobo...
Posted by: zach1288
Try leaving your battery out longer, Some CMOS batteries can take up to 8 hours to clear.
Posted by: linderman
Welcome to TSF:
two items for consideration
A) what is your power supply and specs / this is by FAR the most underated overlooked component that plays such a vital role / the generics PSU just plain cant cut the mustard / they rely on cheap price to lure sales not performance / it doesnt take much of a fluctuation in power to send the newer systems baulking.
B) download and run memtest86.com on your memory modules / sounds like you may have a trouble maker there. Test them one at a time first / then as a pair
please post back with your findings
regards
joe
Posted by: Talannon
It could still play a role if I go back in bios and the settings seem to be back at normal? (like the FSB at 200 instead of 400 mhz like I tried to change at first.
edit: Power supply is a 350W smart Power by Antec
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
An Antec is a great power supply, but frankly, don't think a 350 of anything is big enough to handle what you have. Even an Antec, you probably would need a minimum of a 450 to 480 with a very strong amperage rating. Antec and Enermax is where good power supplies are made if the wattage is what you need. That is the first place I would look after the memory thing is checked.
Posted by: Talannon
So... I made the test with the ram with this computer and the ram seems to have no problem at all.
So I guess I should try with a better power supply? But even a 350W with only the motherboard, cpu/fan, ram and video card would still not be enough to run it? Because I still have problem while running only that... Before I go out and buy a good power supply I would like to make sure it could be the source of the problem.
BTW, thank you all for the help so far, I hope we can find the problem :(
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
If you have a Best Buy nearby, go find a good power supply and if it is not the problem, take it back or return it. That way, it would not be an expensive venture that might not solve the problem. Just be careful how you deal with the packaging so you can return it if it does not help. That sounds like the best solution at this time.
Posted by: Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Posted by: ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
live links of this type are no longer allowed outside of the advertising form
dai
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Hi,
Before you go out and get another power supply, you need to make sure you have everything hooked up correctly.
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Let us know these things and we will try to get right back to you.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
It will only go in the way I put it. Other thing is the power supply is an ATX with 20 pin. My manual says it should work but it also says that I could use a 24 pin SSI power supply but never use those. Again I am sure the power supply is in correctly cause I couldn't plug it any other way anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Maxtor 160 gig connected on sata 1 and there doesn't seem to ba master/slave option. Is it because it's SATA? It also seems to be detected as IDE THIRD Master on the first page.
LG DVD +/- RW in master on ide 1
Nothing on IDE 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
My ram is PC3200 (DDR 400) it's supported from what I can read in the book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
I also bought my ram as dual channel so I got a kit from Kingston KVR. So they should be identical to each other. Kingston is in the list of supported memory on MSI webpage of the motherboard...
Posted by: Talannon
So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
One thing I notice is when I boot the ram is showed to go at 201 mhz instead of 200. Not sure if it says something...
Posted by: whodatknocking
Quote:
First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case.
this might be a real problem, we'll see
but first:
go into your bios and relaxe the timings on your ram, maybe 3-4-4-8
pump the voltage up on the ram a notch,to maybe 2.7 or 2.8
post back
Posted by: Talannon
humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
Posted by: whodatknocking
try 3
no it isnt the voltage, the voltage would be in another spot in the bios
post back
Posted by: Talannon
changed nothing
I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI

I am confused with regard to what is actually included with the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI board in the US. Unfortunately, MSI isn't very clear with their information.
Does this board include the following, or are they optional, & if optional how can I get them:
IEEE 1394 (Firewire) ports (1 external, 2 internal)
SPDIF Out
D-Bracket 2
SATA 5-6 ports
Anybody actually have this board installed & running yet, & would you buy this board if you were starting all over again? Were your experiences with this board good or bad? Any gotchas?
Thanks

Quote
Unfortunatly, the MSI-websites (american, european, taiwanese) all have slightly different specs listed, but none exactly covered what my package included.
I've read numerous posts about MSI motherboards & video cards not meeting the manufacturer's claimed specifications. This deeply troubles me, & makes me wonder if I should buy MSI products at all.
Quote
f you buy 2 6600GT's now, you're stuck on the performance of about a single 6800GT, less in some cases.
If you buy a 6800GT now, you get the same bang, but have the option to add anotherone later to up your rig!
Exactly my point! I just can't see paying extra money on a high-end, bleeding-edge SLI motherboard, then populating it with 2 mid-level graphics cards. I suppose that seems logical to some people, but not me. I've also read in the reviews that the attachment of the heatsink/fan on the 6600GT is not physically secure, & many of the heatsinks aren't properly attached to, or making full contact with, the GPU on retail versions of the cards!
Of course, SLI is still very much a technology that has yet to prove its promise. Very few games support it, & teething pains abound. We're still in the verion 1.0 of SLI motherboards, which is kind of scary, & all of the current crop of SLI motherboards seem to have their "issues." nVIDIA is lagging behind in releasing updated video card drivers. Maybe SLI isn't quite "ready for primetime" yet.
Quote
An Ultra would be a waste of money. The difference is not worth the extra dough for it, and a brand GT can
be clocked to Ultra-levels as well.
Some people would not want to spend the extra $ on an Ultra, but others might feel that it is well worth the cost. Sure, you can overclock a GT to gain a bit of extra performance, but what levels of performance can you gain by overclocking the Ultra? I don't know the answer to this. I still have a lot of research to conduct concerning the nVIDIA 6800GT & Ultras, & the "real world" viability of SLI.

MSI K8N NEO4-F Platinum

Is Anybody still selling this? cant find it anyware..
i got a MSI K8N NEO4-F but need SATA2 support, can anybody recommend me an alternative?
TIA

Quote from: Bas on 11-August-06, 19:20:11
You can put a SATA-II card in.
But don't expect miracles, as SATA-II isn't any faster then SATA-I.
Only the busspeed is a bit higher, but the performance is the same.
Drive's are still not fast enough to even load the ATA-100 BUS to it's full potential, but they do get close to that
Ya..i agree with it.

Single Channel Dual Channel Question, K8N Neo4 Platinum

Just putting together a machine for the Daughter. Using MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum board 7125-010, MSI NX6600GT PCIE 128 Video card with AMD64 3700 CPU SD and a 1 GB stick of Crucial dual sided memory, CT12864Z40B, DDR 400 3200. The rest of my parts arrived and just got it all together and booted into the Bios. The boot screen tells me the memory is DDR Single Cannel, 64 bit running at 3-3-8-3 and 2T timings. I have been into the Bios setup, but had let the memory boot at Auto settings. Is what I am seeing on this screen OK because there is only one stick of memory installed? Or am I just confused as normal? I was thinking it should read Dual Channel, but I am hoping that is just my backwards thinking at times. I wish all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thanks in advance for the guidance.
Pop's

JayBee; Thank you very much for the quick response. The Daughter decided to go with the 1GB stick to begin with so as to possibly add another 1GB stick later. I don't think she will need it myself, judging by her computer use. She does no gaming or multi-tasking, so there probably will be no need to add more memory in the future. I was just wondering if there is any noticable performance hit by using a single stick vs a pair of matched 512's?? I used the same MB as in my sig, but noticed the new one has an upgraded BIOS. I hope it is an improvement, because I have yet had no problems with my machine which has the V1.6 BIOS. This new one which is about 2 months newer than mine has a BIOS V1.A in the bios screen. At bootup it is identified as ( 6A61FM49C-OO ) what ever that means. I read the forum daily and have noticed you are very active and consice in helping folks out. I very much appreciate your time and effort that you give freely. Hope you have a very safe and happy holiday season and SANTA is very good to you. I think we as a group need to get SANTA up to speed on gift giving in the computer upgrade department.
Regards; Pop's

K8N NEO4 Platinum (MS-7125) DIMM Memory Setup

im planning to install two Kingston value ram KVR400X64C3A/512 on my K8N NEO4 Platinum board, this two modules although identical feature double side chip arrangement, i an also well aware from reading the board manual that dual channel installation of these modules will actually slow down the performance of the memory,
what would be the best setup for these to modules?
im planning on installing one module in DIMM1 and the other in DIMM2, is that the best recommendable arrangement for this type of DIMMS?
also this DIMMS use 2.6v, and the board default setup is 2.5v, should i leave the default settings or do i need to make any changes in the bios configuration for these to work properly?

I would go with a dualchannel config.
Confirm dualchannel mode on boot screen or with cpu-z software
http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php
To compare differant memory configs, you can get a rough performance idea by running sisoft sandra mem.benchmark.
http://download.guru3d.com/sandra/
Never go below RAM voltage recommendation.
I rather upper the voltage to 2.7 for best stability.

K8N Neo4 Plat: Choosing new PSU & Want Your 2 cents B/T my Choices! :)

Read the PSU sticky and have nailed down my choices to a few, which I'd like your opinions on, if anyone thinks one looks better over the other. Here's the rig:
K8N Neo4 Plat
AMD Athlon 64 FX
2GB RAM (XP Home)
(3) 160GB SATA II drives, non-RAID
7950 GT Fanless (no SLI needed)
Plextor 716-A DVDR
Floppy
SB Live! Drive
Xion 600w (+3v 35a / +5v 53a / +12v1 22a / +12v2 22a / +5vbs 3a)
Xion has been a good PSU but is sounding tired at boot until it warms, and frankly, it's only been 2 yrs or so since I got it. After reading the PSU sticky, I narrowed it down to these three:
Silverstone 600w dual rail: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163109
Corsair 550w single rail: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
OCZ 550w dual rail: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
A couple of these happen to be modular, and I saw the sticky recommended against them due to poor connections, etc. Is this still a general consensus? I won't be in and out of the rig anymore.... I built it a few years ago and use my laptop more, actually. It's become a second computer, so frankly I'm not too worried about connections coming loose. If I shove em in good once and leave it, I imagine it will be alright. But neither do I care if it is modular.... just looking for which one looks like it would serve the rig better. All opinions are welcome! Thanks!

Thanks Frankenputer and Henry, I was just coming back to add the P&C Silencer 610: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005 as a possible choice, and saw you suggested it! That beefy rail looks good and it's advertised as being particularly silent which is very important to me. (One of the reasons I find myself using my laptop more is because it's so quiet.) I won't be adding to the desktop rig anytime soon... it's serving my purposes as is. And though I agree I could probably get by with the 450VX, for 10 bucks more, I might as well get the 550W for a little more peace of mind.
So between the Cosair 550W and the P&C 610W, which do you think would be quieter? I'm concerned that the P&C only has an 80mm fan and although they make a big deal about their "silent technology" it doesn't say anything about the fan having ball bearings. The Cosair has a nice large 120mm fan, (larger fans can spin slower [making less noise] while moving more air), which is what I am used to in a PSU, and it is a double ball bearing fan, so it should be pretty darn quiet. If either PSU would serve the rig just as well, then silence is the next most important factor to me, even more than warranty. I'd just as soon replace a quieter PSU more often, than have a noisier one that lasts forever.

Poor Performance K8N NEO4

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for