Poor Quality when Exported for DVD

Hi,
I am creating a dvd of some animations, and the animations are videos of what were originally all vector shapes and text. The videos were originally made with After Effects, at 720x480, NTSC preset. I can export from after effects at full-scale with with no problems, but once the comp tries to go into NTSC mode (where it squishes it to 640x480) the whole thing becomes ruined. All text becomes illegible and many vector objects get jagged edges.
I have tried exporting from after effects as well as bringing it into final cut pro and using compressor at 2-pass (Best Quality 90 min DVD preset), and no matter what I do the resulting video is always horribly deformed... Any idea what I need to do differently?
thank you.

thank you for your help.
I am viewing this on a computer display. I've been switching between a powerbook and a g5 with cinema display.
In AE I typically use apple animation codec, but I have also been trying it as an uncompressed avi and and uncompressed quicktime. By bringing the file directly from AE to compressor and changing from vbr 2-pass to One Pass CBR it has greatly improved the quality, still it does have some pixelation that I can't get rid of, even at the full 9mbps bitrate.
My understanding was that I wasn't bringing it into square pixels that I was using the DVCPRO/NTSC preset which formats it to a 4:3 ratio (which is what I think Final Cut also is doing), either way, by not doing that in After Effects, and by changing to CBR it is definately an improvement.
One more thing I should probably mention is that the videos are actually programs I have written and so they are being captured using a screen-capture to video utility called iShowU. The program seems to be good, and I am using an NTSC preset.
Any ideas as to what I can do to get these to as good of quality as their apple animation quicktimes?
the dvds I am assembling are only about 45 minutes.

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