Poor rendering of 3d pdf on Mac Pro
I'm in a limbo between Apple and Adobe. Although I find it hard to believe that I am the only one who uses 3d pdf diligently and try to do it on a fullgrown Mac. It started when I took my previous MacPro (Mid 2010) in use almost 4 years ago. All 3d-pdfs I tried to render on the machine lacked transparency and materials. The same file on an iMac or a PC looked like I wanted. I complained but the great As blamed each other. And I gave up the fight.
I resently bought a new MacPro (late 2013), partly in the hope that I would get a video card that was supported by Adobe/Apple. But no. The same dreary rendering without material properties. On this machine, I have installed Windows 8.1 throuhg bootcamp. And when I run Reader on Windows my 3d-pdfs looks as I expect. The same machine, the same graphics card, the same file ...
Am I the onely one experiencing this problem? Can I do anything about it?
Ok my images are removed...
But I cant give it up yet. Am I the only one experiencing this problem??? Here are 2 shrunk images. First from Acrobat Reader running on Mac OS 10.92:
Then Acrobat Reader on the same Mac Pro (late 2013) running on Windows 8.1:
Notice the semi transparent ceiling and more vivid colors.
I have an old post regarding the same problem on my previous Mac Pro here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3311368
Please give me a response if you have seen this...
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No transperancy rendering 3d pdf on Mac Pro
I'm in a limbo between Apple and Adobe. Although I find it hard to believe that I am the only one who uses 3d pdf diligently and try to do it on a fullgrown Mac. It started when I took my previous MacPro (Mid 2010) in use almost 4 years ago. All 3d-pdfs I tried to render on the machine lacked transparency and materials. The same file on an iMac or a PC looked like I wanted. I complained but the great As blamed each other. And I gave up the fight.
I resently bought a new MacPro (late 2013), partly in the hope that I would get a video card that was supported by Adobe/Apple. But no. The same dreary rendering without material properties. On this machine, I have installed Windows 8.1 throuhg bootcamp. And when I run Reader on Windows my 3d-pdfs looks as I expect. The same machine, the same graphics card, the same file ...
Am I the onely one experiencing this problem? Can I do anything about it?Ok my images are removed...
But I cant give it up yet. Am I the only one experiencing this problem??? Here are 2 shrunk images. First from Acrobat Reader running on Mac OS 10.92:
Then Acrobat Reader on the same Mac Pro (late 2013) running on Windows 8.1:
Notice the semi transparent ceiling and more vivid colors.
I have an old post regarding the same problem on my previous Mac Pro here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3311368
Please give me a response if you have seen this... -
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Extremely poor bandwidth and instable connection on Mac Pro to Airport WLAN
Hi folks!
Following Problem: My Mac Pro delivers terrible WLAN performance while my wifes iBook runs the WLAN absolutely stable and up to 5 times faster!!
Been experimenting a lot, but nothing worked so far. It seems with every "update" in the recent months it got worse and worse.
Here are the DETAILS:
Mac Pro (2006)
Dual 3 GHz Dual-Core Xeon
Mac OS X 10.6.3
connected via 802.11n/ 2.4 GHz - signal full (connecting to 5 GHz network fails or delivers no bandwith)
average of 0,5 MB/s download
average of 0,1 MB/s upload
Signal / Noise: -79 dBm / -89 dBm
Send rate: 5
System Settings > Network
Airport DNS: 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
All Ethernet MTUs: 1452
STRANGE: the data stream shown in network activity monitor keeps jumping from 30kB/s to 1.5 MB/s looks like like a very pointed saw. sometimes its continously high at 1.3 MB/s for 5 Sec then dead then saw again and whatever. sometimes it looks like a chart from the stock exchange.
Tried external System 10.5.5: a little bit of the saw-effect but much more stable. still only about 0.9 MB/s download in average.
ON THE OPPOSITE...
iBook G4
1.33 GHz
Mac OS X 10.5.8
connected via 802.11g/ 2.4 GHz - signal full while sitting right next to the Mac Pro
average of 2.3 MB/s download
average of 1,6 MB/s upload
NICE: continous data stream shown in network activity monitor
RUNNING on:
Airport Utility Version 5.5.1
Airport Extreme Base Station (Simul. Dual-Band II)
Firmware Version 7.5.1
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All setting on automatic
WPA2 Key
Name for 5 GHz netzwork aktivated
Multicast: high
Sending Power: 100%
Timeout WPA: 1hr
further 3 checkboxes unchecked
My assumption: System 10.6.3 ***** for older Mac Pro OR Mac Pro's Airport Card is corrupted OR I need an external antenna (if there is such a thing) OR I need some sort of update or sophisticated settings.
Is there ANYTHING I can do? I am pretty close to drill a few holes into the walls of our appartment and get me a long ethernet cable!!
THANX for help!Ok, now I did the following: Bought a Edimax EW-7711USn WiFi USB Adapter and hooked it up to the USB Port in the back of the Cinema Display. Airport is deaktivated. Installed the Ralink WLAN Utility that is provided with to USB device.
Upside: Getting continous data stream at 1.3 MB/s to 2.1 MB/s = ok
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This is a six line review.
One month into a Mac Pro after 20 years of Microsoft Windows on PCs.
My Mac works for ME not the reverse !!
I worked for my PC and Microsoft as a slave to a poor design and implementation.
The Mac Pro does everything a computer should. This is a superb piece of design and engineering.
A Windows virus that nearly cost me $10,000 was the final straw. And that was despite first class antivirus software.
Well done Apple. You have an absolute convertMy Mac works for ME not the reverse !!
The aggregate cost to mankind for having used Windows PC garbage for as long as it has been in existence is incalculable. The only thing worse than that enormous sum is the even more incalculable amount of productive time lost. Finite human capital, gone forever.
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If you are interested in the actual design data for the Xeon processor, go to the Intel site and the actual CPU part numbers are:
Xeon 4 core - E5.1620v2
Xeon 6 core - E5.1650v2
Xeon 8 core - E5.1680v2
Xeon 12 core - E5.2697v2
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why can't I print a pdf from my mac pro to my printer?
Don't know! You'll have to give us more details of what's happening when you try. Can you print other documents OK? When you try to print, does the printer icon appear in the dock - click on it and see if there are any printer messages.
Matt -
I can not figure how to create a Adobe PDF Printer. Normally when you install the package ( CS6 Standard for Mac Pro) the installer creates the PDF printer automatically. In the System Preferences under the Printer/Fax I don't see the PDF printer. How do you create the PDF printer.
Thanks,
Melaniedid you install acrobat x and does it work as expected?
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New Mac Pro (late 2013) crashes / freezes while rendering or editing in Premiere Pro CC
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Mac Pro 3.1 eight core FCP 6 shows all 8 cores rendering??
I just got a Mac Pro early 2008 3.1 with eight cores...running Leopard 10.5.8 I've read on this forum at times that FCP does not use more than 4 cores when rendering. But when I render 1080p pro res 442 in FCP 6 all eight cores run up over 90%, and it does indeed render almost three times as fast as my Power Mac g5 Quad. So I'm just curious why FCP is actually using all 8 cores. Any help is appreciated, as always.
Fay Krause wrote:
... I've read on this forum at times that FCP does not use more than 4 cores when rendering....
You are confusing cores with RAM.
FCP is a 32bit app. This means it can not make use of more than 4 GB of Ram (2.5 GB for the program and 1.5 for the frameworks).
FCP will use all the cores in a machine, how MUCH they are used, depends on a lot of factors - including the version of OSX you are runnning.
10.6.8 (snow leop) has a full 64 bit mode that will do a better job of allocating system resources to 32 bit tasks than 10.5. I ran 10.6.8 set to boot into 64 bit mode along with FCP 7 for a long time with great performance. If I hadn't needed 10.8 for other software, I'd still be running 10.6.8.
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Poor performance of Premiere Pro on 2013 Mac Pro
A month ago I bought a 2013 Mac Pro mostly for running Premiere Pro CC. The configuration is 6 cores @ 3.5 GHz, 64 GB RAM, 2 x D700 graphics, 1 TB internal SSD. It runs OS X Mavericks 10.9.4.
I tried Premiere Pro CC today for the first time. The input--entirely stored on the internal SSD; no external disk was even connected--was about 100 clips shot as AVCHD (1080p25 PAL) at 24 Mbps.
I edited this in Premiere Pro and added small adjustments (mostly changes of levels) in about 20 clips. The rest had no adjustments. There were no transitions applied. For the most part, it just had to copy the trimmed input clips to the output.
I queued this for Adobe Media Encoder CC at H.264, 1080p25, @ 24 Mbps VBR 2 pass. Audio was 192 kbps, 48 kHZ,stereo. The output was written to the internal SSD.
While encoding, the CPU was running 50-70% idle (!!!) so it was using only 2-3 cores and half the memory (32GB) was unused. It certainly wasn't trying very hard. No other programs except Premiere, AME, and the activity monitor were open during encoding and I was just sitting there watching it lumber along.
The time to encode the timeline of 9:47 was 21:28. That is 2.2x real time. My 4-year-old Windows machine using CS6 could do that. What's wrong? Should Premiere Pro be this slow on hardware this fast? Is there some secret box "Use all the cores and all allowed memory" that I have to check (I set the preferences to allow Adobe to use 52 GB). Does Premiere get tired in the evenings? The internal SSD runs at 900 MB/s and there was no transcoding to do. What was going on?
This is my first test of Premiere and it is kind of disappointing. Did I just waste 6500 euros on the Mac Pro or am I using the wrong settings. Any advice is welcome.
Thanks.Yes, should be great if someone put some light in all this performance thing in the new mac pro, I just did a test, 3 video tracks with 4K Red footage, 50% of opacity each one and I just play the 2 min sequence, and Premiere started to drop frames at half resolution playback and when I changed to full resolution playback the sequence was unplayable, I mean, they sold this MacPro/Premiere workflow as the way to edit 4K without compromises and now we are not capable to deliver jobs because the poor performance... and I'm not talking now about the constant crashes and freezes, I'm talking about that we can't play just 3 tracks without any effect.
Would be great if someone put some light on this, maybe we are blaming adobe and it's apple's fault and we should go to the apple store to return the machine... I did test on the Mac and looks OK, I'm more than confuse about this... -
Why mac pro 2013 not supporting illustrator GPU rendering
Here, all nvidia cards supporting this:
http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/gpu-performance-preview-improvements.html
now I'm thinking, that buying the new mac pro 2013 maybe wasn't the best idea... Apple put in AMD GPu's, that is fine by me, but come on, give us some more support for them! Normal windows PC (for 800€) with nvidia GPU is faster at rendering in Illustrator, than my workstation mac (3500+€)! Really? O.o
And story doesn't end here. I was reading one article about GPU usage in this new mac pro and then I tested it myself. Only one GPU is used and the other is barely touched! And this goes for Maya, photoshop, illustrator and other adobe programs. I was shocked, that I discovered I have one GPU to warm up my room and only one actually doing all the work.
Ok I understand, that also software developers needs to support stuff and write their software to actually use GPU's, but adobe creative suite is one of examples, where software is actually capable of using GPU via openCL and in some cases even CUDA from nvidia.
And there is one more thing: new mac pro, has 2 identical AMD GPU's inside, which can work in crossfire configuration under windows in bootcamp, but not in OS X. Sometimes I even play some games on my mac and sometimes I'm testing them (I'm artist, but I also like to develop and test some games in my free time) and it's kinda a shame, that I can run games with better performance under windows in bootcamp.
When I bought this computer I thought this is going to rock and sweep up with all my previous machines. Well in practice it is much of unused potential and great room warmer. It's kinda sad, that on my girlfriend's PC I can play games with better frames and details on GF 660GTX than on my mac pro... I know I know, mac's aren't for gaming, but hey, sometimes it is good to get my mind on rest and blow up some enemies!
I'm not saying mac pro isn't great product, which is (very great). But support to use all computer capabilities is very limited and Apple should kick developers in their back side and push them to start developing things to use GPU's more.
I'm also not expecting Apple to jump on their feet and fix problems overnight. No, just start thinking of adding more support and things that would make our computers much more used and not only good decoration on desk. First would be a good steep adding crossfire support to OS X. That might even help at rendering some 3D scenes?
Next step would probably be better cooperation with software developers, like Adobe , Autodesk,... If adobe made good support for GPU rendering in Illustrator, aim that we get that support soon as well. I'm sometimes having a lot of paths and objects and rendering goes pretty slow then.
I'm also thinking about that AMD choice Apple made wasn't so good when you see that Nvidia puts much more effort into supporting more and more stuff, while AMD is sitting idle not even updating their drivers anymore.
Oh and one more thing: Can we please, please, please, please, preeeeeetty please get 10-bit output support on OS X? It's kinda sad, having good mac workstation with 10-bit capable monitor (dell UP2414Q) and no support for it, while other PC workstations all support it... Photoshop is working much better on OS X and here I have much better integration and everything and I really love working in Photoshop running on OS X, but some basic things are missing and I'm really asking myself sometimes: was that good decision? Photoshop was first written for macs and in 2014 there is much better support for adobe software on windows than on OS X. Where went wrong?
Don't take me wrong and think I'm just ranting here without any good reason, but think: buying very expensive computer that is supposed to make creative work easy and painless is actually just on paper. In reality computer potential is pretty much unused and that makes me thinking if I would be much better buying iMac instead of mac pro...
TL;DR: I wish for some more support from Apple for their new expensive mac pro's 2013. They are great piece of equipment, but equivalent PC's running windows are surpassing them in this department, specially when GPU's are involved. Now I would like to point this out to Apple, so I don't know where to write so they will read so I first wrote that here. I hope someone from Apple reads this and give us some feedback on those missing things or maybe I get direction where to write to Apple so I get maybe some response from them(?):
-not enough GPU support for creative software (adobe suite, autodesk,...) - nvidia + windows offering much more for less money?
-no crossfire support on OS X. Any particular reason for that?
-no 10-bit support for 10-bit displays. Why not? Hardware is capable, why software isn't?
-lack of openCL software out there. Apple isn't doing much to get more support or developers just too lazy to put more effort into this? GPGPU isn't the future as some companies are trying to convince us?Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
All displays are supported by one GPU -- the display GPU. The second GPU is reserved for un-interrupted GPU computing and has no Display output Hardware.
Anandtech has a discussion of this in his review of the late 2013 Mac Pro.
Under OS X the situation is a bit more complicated. There is no system-wide CrossFire X equivalent that will automatically split up rendering tasks across both GPUs.
By default, one GPU is setup for display duties while the other is used exclusively for GPU compute workloads. GPUs are notoriously bad at context switching, which can severely limit compute performance if the GPU also has to deal with the rendering workloads associated with display in a modern OS. NVIDIA sought to address a similar problem with their Maximus technology, combining Quadro and Tesla cards into a single system for display and compute.
from section 9:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013/9
Another problem here: on windows bootcamp crossfire IS working, but not in OS X. As I wrote, sometimes it would be better to get more rendering power than computing power (actually at current state of GPU computing software, computing GPU isn't working very much if at all). It would be nice to have an option to switch on and off crossfire so we could use more rendering power when needed.
Also not all people are doing video rendering on their computers. What about 3D modelling and 2D work in photosohp? And maybe people like me are occasionally wish to play some games on their mac?
You linked me GPU usage from one program (probably adobe after effects or premiere pro or apple final cut X?), that is probably one of the only pieces of software that actually uses both GPU's under OS X. I made same experiment with software I use and I even tested some software I don't use but it is advertised it is "optimized" for mac pro like pixelmator.
And guess what? Second GPU is 99% time idle. Even when some stuff is using openCL in Photoshop, stuff is still computed on rendering GPU and not on computing one, which makes computing GPU just a good room warmer as I wrote before. Wouldn't be better to at least use second GPU for something than heating air? -
i have the current Mac Pro the entry level with the default configuration and i feel lack of performance when applying after effects on my videos using final cut pro and also rendering a video takes long time ? what upgrades do you guys suggest i could do on my Mac Pro ?
256GB SSD it shipped with will run low and one of the things to watch.
Default memory is 12GB also something to think about.
D500 and FCP-X 10.1+
http://macperformanceguide.com/index_topics.html#MacPro2013Performance
Five models of 2013 Mac Pro running Resolve, FCPX, After Effects, Photoshop, and Aperture
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