Poor SATA Performance out of K8n Neo Plat and Raptor drive

I have a k8N Neo platinum with a new Raptor drive. Is there any reason why, when I set the command queueing option for the drive, my speed test under the device manager for that channel says I am getting a normal speed of 5 and a burst of 5.5? I should be getting 50+ with this drive.
Any thoughts? I have all the latest drivers.

kweckstrom - the reason is this:
There is currently no hardware support for NCQ on Nforce 3 boards - NVidia have only just managed to add it for the NForce4 boards as you know which aint available as yet.
NCQ is running in software mode - hence the reduction of performance - I have the same problem - its a case of deciding if you really need it or not - if you do allot of multi-tasking then its worthwhile otherwise if like me you just game - then its not required.

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jocko

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=28e8b34c11c189f3cf4fd87517f09849&topic=76872.msg541977#msg541977
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Originally posted by BluddSimple
I have a Lite on LDW 411s dvd writer that is on the same ide channel as a lite on dvd player (labled as JLMS SJ-HD1665 in the device manager.
You might have better luck making the reader the slave on the channel your HD is on. I had both a burner/writer on the same channel and while it worked, the performance was very poor.
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greetings...
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