POP Mail Question

I have an iMac in my office and an iPhone 4S, an iPad Air, and a MacBook Pro that travel around with me. In the long ago past, before IMAP really got going, I used to be able to download my POP email to a laptop, read messages, and delete them without touching the copy that was on the mail server. My desktop computer controlled what occurred on the mail server - delete, invoke mail rules, set a time for the mail to be removed from the server. My mail was downloaded to my computer and a copy was kept there in lieu of the mail server.
I'm trying to do the same kind of thing with at least one of my handhelds or the MacBook Pro - be able to read and either reply to the sender, forward to appropropriate people, or delete or keep the message on the device until I was through with it - without all that activity being synced to every device I own. (I honestly don't recall whether or not those actions somehow got back to the mail server.) Meanwhile, my desktop computer and perhaps my iPhone or iPad would be the interface to the cloud and manage the mail - what happened on one device would be synced to all the machines using IMAP mail.
I'm a little confused by what I'm reading on these forums about this matter. Some have said outright that iCloud does not support POP at all, and others give at least some hint that it may be possible to set up the kind of thing I'm looking for above. So my basic question is: can I set up a POP account on my laptop that reads email from my iCloud mail account independent of the interaction between my iMac and the iCloud mail? If I can do this, would someone kindly tell me what mail server I should be using - clearly mail.me.com is not the correct choice.

iCloud email does not support POP. The old mobile me account was POP, but was converted to IMAP when iCloud took over.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4864?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

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SSL is short for secure sockets layer.
http://webnet77.com/secure-email.html
If the incoming mail server for your POP account does not support SSL, you can't use it with the account. The account should be set up when proceeding without using SSL since it appears the email account provider for your email account does not support using SSL.

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When I go to my iCloud and check my backup apps. I can not find the option to add my Mail that is configured for POP.
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Thank you ahead for all replies.
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Hi Rob
It sounds like my problem is the same as yours..... Sorry, but I'm a bit of an iPad dummy so am writing for some more clarification...
My problem is..... I am away from home and only travelling with my iPad, however we have sold our house and my bigpond email address on my iPad is getting clogged with all the solicitors stuff etc, so I really need these emails for my files...
I want to be able to backup these up (so that I can retrieve them later to print out and file) and delete them from my iPad...
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If the Inbox for this account only is revealed, is there any triangle beside it?
Ah, yes, I see! Silly me to be looking for Sent mail under "Sent"! Indeed, there's a disclosure triangle next to the account name under "Inbox", and wen you open it, it shows Drafts, Sent, spam, and Trash. The sent items are indeed there.
Mind you, my Dot Mac accounts show up normally, i.e., their sent mail goes under "Sent". Wish all IMAP accounts did that. It sure isn't logical to show sent mail inside an inbox...
But to answer your question: In addition to having the "Sent" folder for the account under "Inbox", I also have a folder for the account under "Sent". This folder disappears when I check the box to store messages on the server. There were emails in it (the ones I placed there myself). I have now moved those emails to the sent sub-folder under the account under "Inbox". Even with the "store on server" option UNchecked, the emails were instantly duplicated to the server, so that they were present both locally and remotely. I then checked the "store on server box"; this made the mailbox for the account under "Sent" vanish.
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Could someone PLEASE tell me how to set up more than one POP mail account.

I am soooo frustrated. Before I upgraded to Tiger I had no problems setting up my mail accounts. Now, I can only set up one POP mail account. I have three mail accounts that I desperately need to set up from the same ISP server, all POP accounts. On Panther and earlier, all I had to do was add the accounts. Now I have ONE POP account and when I try to set up another I get an error message that I already have a POP account set up. Why is this happening and what happened to the old system that worked just fine. I am so annoyed with this. It simply defies logic!!!!

I don't know if this will work or not, but why don't you try using bogus pop and/or smtp server information when you initially establish the accounts with Mail's setup wizard? Just continue through the "warning: cannot validate server" messages that the wizard will give you. Then go into Mail > preferences > accounts and highlight each of the new accounts, one at a time, and try changing the incoming pop and outgoing smtp mail server information to what it is supposed to be?
For the "Outgoing" server just use the pull-down menu, to select it, and when all accounts are done, go into that same pull-down menu and choose "Edit Server List..." to remove the bogus smtp server information.
Incoming should be just renaming that pop server in the "Incoming server" field.
If that doesn't work, I've got something riskier you could try, again with no guarantees, and that is editing your ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist file using either the Property List Editor that comes with XCode Tools (will launch automagically when you click on that .plist file if XCode is installed) or with the pico editor in Terminal, and possibly renaming some folders in your ~/Library/Mail folder, too. Again, start with the bogus server info, then find those entries in the .plist file and make changes there.
Note: if not familiar with the notation, "~" means your "home" directory.
(if this solves your problem, or is actually helpful towards arriving at a solution to your problem, please consider marking this reply as "helpful" or "solved," in addition to, if applicable, marking this question as "answered")

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It all depends on the policy of whoever is providing you with Internet access at each location. Note that when you’re on a trip and connect through someone’s else network, the ISP at that location is usually not the same as the ISP when you’re at home.
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I think what you mean is that you cannot have an email POP account on a laptop and on iphone look for the same messages on the incoming server.
I mean exactly what I provided. A POP account is designed to be accessed with a single email client only. When a POP account is accessed with more than email client, the setting for removing messages from the server when downloaded needs to be off with both email clients used to access the account.
And if accessed with more than one email client, you cannot have both email clients actively accessing the incoming mail server for new messages at or near the same time. If one email client checks the incoming mail server for new messages followed by another email client doing the same at or near the same time, the incoming mail server will lock the account's Inbox mailbox preventing the 2nd email client from accessing the account's Inbox mailbox and downloading new messages if any are available. This is a temporary lock and is due to a POP account being designed to be accessed with a single email client only.
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*"does it save a copy on my computer?"*
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Office_Protocol

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