Popping sent mail / blackberry

hi there,
tried to search the boards for this topic but was unable to find any info; if there's already a thread please let me know...
so here's my issue: i just got a blackberry and have been sending a lot of emails from it. unlike sending mail from the mac mail program, the sent emails don't go into my sent box in mac mail. they do however go into my yahoo sent box (from where i pop my mail into mac mail).
aside from manually moving the sent mail into the inbox from the yahoo mail website and then letting it pop into my mac mail inbox then moving it into the sent box, is there an easier way to do this?
i have pocketmac software, but unsure if this can do that...
thanks much.
rw
macbook pro Mac OS X (10.4.8) blackberry 8700g - t-mobile

Looks like perhaps a failure to decode Base 64 Content Transfer Encoding. Maybe stripping of headers that tell Mail to do that by server somewhere along the line? No idea how to fix.

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OK, I messed up. It happens to us all, once in a blue moon (even if I knew better to back up BEFORE I tried something new, and it had been 3 months).
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Today, I wanted to make a switch from the Mail app checking my Gmail account with POP to checking it with IMAP. It's the same Gmail account that I previously retrieved with POP, but now wanted to access through IMAP (better syncing ability through multiple machines).
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Mike,
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Workaround:
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Ok here is the solution to your sent mails problem. I have spent far too long setting up google apps to sync properly with my new E72 (latest software installed). It really is a superb phone but if Nokia is not going to fully support integration with Google Apps with a simple app then Android and Blackberry will simply take over for Apps users. It really isn't up to Google to solve this its up to Nokia. Are you going to move from Google Apps or change your phone????
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Since updating to Snow Leopard I no longer have any mail in my Sent Mail folder
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I noticed that after configuring my Gmail to work with Mail/IMAP some new folders were
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pbchaves wrote:
Since updating to Snow Leopard I no longer have any mail in my Sent Mail folder
when using IMAP in Mail 4.1. In fact just a few (258) of all my sent messages (3732)
were properly downloaded.
I noticed that after configuring my Gmail to work with Mail/IMAP some new folders were
created. They are: [Gmail]/Sent Mail/Sent, [Imap]/Drafts, Sent messages, and Deleted Messages. Apart
from those, my Gmail account has always had standard folders such as Inbox, Sent Mail (the majority of my sent messages are in here), Drafts, Spam, and Trash. Apparently Mail is only downloading the messages from the new "Sent messages" folder and not the standard "Sent Mail", wherein all my sent messages actually are.
you can change Your Sent mailbox to "Sent Mail". select Sent Mail mailbox, go to mailbox menu->use this mailbox for->sent.
Another issue it that the spinning gear next to the Gmail Inbox in Mail 4.1 keeps spinning incessantly as if checking for new messages all the time even though it is set to check for new messages every 5 minutes and all messages has been downloaded. I have another IMAP account for my university's email which is working perfectly (neither problems with Sent Mail folder nor spinning gear). I will post the spinning gear problem in a separate question.
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Hi Everyone.
this question requires a fair amount of background -- I tried my usually very helpful users' group and didn't get any responses. Here's the story:
I upgraded my macbook pro to Leopard partly because I thought Time Machine would make me backup more regularly (it has). I have a few sporadic backups from prior to the upgrade, and then I backed up right before I upgraded. I had a disk error during my first attempt at an archive & install, found that the disk was wiped, thanked my lucky stars I backed up beforehand, ran disk utility on the disk, and then did an erase & install instead.
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