Portability of Nomad ZEN N

Hi,
I have a Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen NX 30gb version .0.02. Is it possible to connect the player to any PC and automatically get the new hardware detected in the explorer eventhough the PC does not have Creative Mediasource installed? I now that with players like IPod and Archos the actual music organizer software is installed in the player itself and when connecting to any PC it is ready to be used. Is there any updates like this for Zen NX?
Thanks
Stef

You will always need to install drivers as a minimum. Perhaps with the newer versions of WMP (WMP0) it will list the player in Windows Explorer (but you'll still need to install the drivers).
The iPod still needs drivers and software to copy music to it, although for data it doesn't.
The Archos works as a USB mass storage device hence doesn't need drivers, but it also doesn't have a music library.

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If your device is being detected fine, but cannot sync, try that and post here if it fixes it.
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DreadRasta40 wrote:
Creative MediaSource will not recognize Nomad Zen Xtra 30BG? Hello, I am new to this forum and very frustrated, I own?a 30Bg Zen Xtra and all of a sudden MediaSource will not allow the transfer of files. Here are my specs and things I've tried to no avail:
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Do you have the driver installed for the device?You can find that here.http://support.creative.com/download...ale=033&nPage= WMP is for MTP devices which the Xtra is not, There is a firmware update for the device HOWEVER updating to that firmware may just kill the player so I would not advise doing it since you have XP & you will be able to sync using MediaSource. Did you install the Creative Zen & Nomad Jukebox plug-in 5.00.22? Click on Show Details & read them before installing anything.

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MP3Pro works by layering two pieces of data, or something like this (Google will turn up the exact details). It uses a standard 64kbit/s section, and then the additional higher quality data on top of this. So an MP3Pro file will play on something that doesn't support it as a 64kbit/s MP3. So it doesn't play perfectly, but it will play some of the data.
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Good day,
I thought I'd share this information since I couldn't find anything about it during the past few weeks when I was looking.
I decided to leap into the MP3 world and after much research concluded the Jukebox 3 was the player for me, only to find out it was no longer manufactured! So I continued my hunt and decided on a Nomad Zen Xtra 30GB unit.
The only problem is it says it needs Windows 98SE and I unfortunately am still running 98 (laugh if you must). So when I got the unit I thought I might as well try and see if it works before going through all the hassle of upgrading an operating system.
It works! I was able to install the CD and update the new drivers, firmware and Nomad Explorer files off of Creative Downloads. The only thing that does not work is Creative MediaSource/Organizer software. This isn't too big a deal from what I can see as it is the MP3 ripper. I downloaded a freeware program called CDex (which is great by the way) and I rip all my CD's using this then use NOMAD Explorer to load it on the dri've. FYI, I also had to download the latest Adaptec APSI driver as well so CDex would work.
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Guys
Thanks for your responses. Sorry I haven't got back - been away a few days.
Situation is this.
new Nomad Zen Extra and Dell 3000 running XP SP2 52mb ram 40gb dri've.
Loaded software with Nomad and unable to sync or transfer. PC could 'see' nomad and read preloaded files but when any form of transfer tried I either got 'device not connected' or, occasionally, a few files would transfer before 'hanging'. Erroe message stated'device busy or not connected'.
Since then I have followed these instructions given in another reply on this forum to the letter.
Here is a step by step of what I would do to try to get back to square one and get MediaSource and the Driver installed.

) Disable any antivirus and background programs on your system and disconnect the Jukebox from USB
2) Go to control panel/add remove programs and remove both Mediasource and the Jukebox Driver
3) Reboot
4) Ensure AV and BG programs are still disabled
5) Search for any updated Chipset drivers for your motherboard (if you need help with this tell me your computer Mft. or your motherboard mft. and I will find out what you will need) and install them.
6) Reboot
7) Repeat step 5
8) Go to www.nomadworld.com and go to downloads/drivers and applications. Select the Jukebox Zen USB 2.0 and your version of Windows. Click get files. Download four files:
Jukebox Driver version .26.02</LI>
Creative MediaSource Software Update version 2.03.29</LI>
NOMAD JukeBox Type 2 Version .0.03 (English) Web Release</LI>
Creative NOMAD Explorer (Version 3.0.0)</LI>
9) While these are downloading, go into rescue mode on the player and run a cleanup. A reload OS will hopefully not be needed.
0) Install the files in the above order. You will plug the Jukebox Zen in at the end of the driver install to complete the install. Leave it connected all the way through the remaining ste
ps.
Disconnect after the last file is installed.
0) Reboot, reconnect the player and test.
Jeremy"
So I think of all the up-to-date firmware etc...
I've also loaded and installed WMP 0 - which can also see the Nomad and has transferred a few files before hanging as above...
I can also see the driver in my device drivers under usb controllers. the driver listed is Creative Labs .26.2.0
I have managed to transfer my tracks (3500+) to the Nomad by burning as MP3 cd's and loading through my works laptop (Win2000). I used the Creative Media Source on the original software which came with the Nomad to do this. This is not a great solution as my company aren't thrilled about such use of their lappies and it only has a 0gb hd and, therefore, doesn't / can't hold my music library.
I really want to get it working properly on my main PC so I can get the max from the Nomad.
Any ideas?
Sorry this is a bit long...
Mark

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well, the back part shouldend have any bad effects if you spray it. Except your warrenty.
The front will not void your warrenty if you paint it. I painted mine.
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Ugh.
Please Creative. Custom Face-Plates. You did it for the Jukebox3 and the Muvos.

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So I installed advance uninstalled pro 2004 and looked arround yet there was no trace of the driver, software or anything even related to creative. So I did the next step, I used Registery Mechanic and found some broken registrys which I promptley deleted, but now on loadup I still have that dri've, the only diffrence is the nomad icon does not appear there anymore, its replaced by the default icon that any file recieves when it cannot be linked to a software.
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any Ideas?
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with USB 2.0
Thank you for your time

Use Driver Cleaner Pro http://www.drivercleaner.net/ free ware that cleans out drivers,.sys.ini,inf and registry settings.
It cleans completely and does not dump to the recycle bin so use caution,I use JV6 which I find not only better at cleaning but much safer than System Mechanic(in fi've years of use It has never hosed my system) you can find the last free version(full function-no time limit) @ http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=jv6 or the new pay version @ http://www.jv6.org/
Many functions to clean,including full scan and search by software(I would try this method)
If you have a Creative Sound card SB Li've or Audigy they include a driver clean up utility CTZAPXX.exe look for it in the C:\Program Files|Creative\Program folder or on your Install disc,it may be available here on Creative Support site or a google search will return many hits.
If you can't find it P.M. me and i will e-mail or post it up on a web site for you.
Just one more caution on working in your registry,always a good idea to back up the registry or set a "restore point" prior to altering the registry,if your not comfortable doing these things stop and ask some one for assistance
Good luck and report back any success
~Trey~Message Edited by Trey69 on 05-4-2005 04:59 AM

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