Portege Z830 - "No HDD Recovery Area" any more

Hi,
today I wanted to make recovery USB key with Toshiba Recovery media Creator. For this purpose I bought 16 GB 3/10 MB/s Verbatim key.
I tried several times with no success. Every time I tried Toshiba Recovery media Creator noticed error: *Error code 040E2D-00-00000000* ... or nothing happened. I put in another new 16 GB USB 3/10 MB/s and happened the same.
After that I tried the third USB key I had - Corsair 32GB USB 3.0. And It worked - I successfully made USB recovery key, but this key I use for other things ..
So I continued with 16 GB Verbatim key. After some more trials Toshiba Recovery media Creator noticed "*No HDD Recovery Area"* And after that I could do nothing.
*What to do now?* I think I didnt' do anything wrong, just tried to put recovery data into 16 GB key. The only think I did is formating this key in different formats (with disk management ... because after every trial Computer even didn't recognize key ...).
Thank you for your advices in advanced.
Tomaz

Yes, I successfully created recovery USB stick - 32 GB Corsair. After I made it, I tried again with 16 GB key, and then happened ...
So Toshiba Recovery Media Creator now says that there is no HDD recovery area, although I can see it with disk manager (picture).
When I startup Z830 and hit F8 I can see only Windows options - menu. Is that OK? I wouldn't like to start recovery process (I think recovery option it is also on menu F12 - select boot media), because it takes time to install all software I need - also I need wireless and printers connections at my job and I can't do this myself ....
Does Toshiba recovery process start with Windows 7 installation - first choosing keybord, .. or has his own menu?
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