Position Based Busgeting/Personnel Cost Planning

Hi, I am new to this topic and so I have some questions which may be very basic. I apologize in advance.
1. When we extract HR information from R/3 is the position information rolled up or can we get individual records by position ID?
2. Do we need to run payroll for Position Budgeting? What's the work around if we aren't implementing payroll? Do you do a masterdata load?
3. Does the information from PBC and Personnel Cost Planning in R/3 feed into the same infocube when we do the extraction?
Thank You!!!!!!!!!

Hi refer the links
Quota Planning
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/a0/524035634df01ee10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
Symbolic A/C
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/f3/21e091110b4e46983af70d772a40b2/frameset.htm
Cost Item
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/66/9baef23aff11d189370000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

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I am in a client that need to valuate the positions planned in Quota Planning (IT1019) during the data collection.
What are the configurations in SPRO, regarding Cost Itens, Symbolic Accounts and Data Collection Method?
I couldn´t find any documentation about it in SAP Help
I am working in SAP ERP 6.0
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Edited by: Marcos Matsumoto Hayashi on Feb 27, 2008 3:10 PM

Hi refer the links
Quota Planning
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/a0/524035634df01ee10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
Symbolic A/C
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/f3/21e091110b4e46983af70d772a40b2/frameset.htm
Cost Item
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/66/9baef23aff11d189370000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

Missing iviews for Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation

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Finally I got the answer and thought I can share this with you all.....
For Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation, SAP has not delivered mss iViews, but SAP has realized the detail planning pages for the line manager and the personnel cost planner by using the Business Server Page (BSP) "hrhcp_planning".
You can find the description of it's usage in the online documentation under the following path:
Human Resources>Personnel Management>Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation-->Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation Flow -->Creating Personnel Cost Plans
--> Providing Detail Planning for Line Managers
--> Detail Planning by Line Managers
--> Detail Planning by the Personnel Cost Planner
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Problems with Personnel Cost Planning

Hi all,
i have problems with the Personnel Cost Planning specifically with the Quota planning (infotype 1019).
i save data in the infotype 1019, Quota planning, for a organizational unit and in the infotype 1005, Planned Compensation, i save data for a job (i also tried with positions), but i can't value the cost for the organizational unit.
maybe I'm missing some setting or I'm doing something wrong.
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Joanne,
Are you still having issues with BI-IP? I have been troubleshooting with the basis folks in getting BI-IP up on a new system over the last few day to a week and have now gone through the process myself whereas before I had been given a system already set up. I have enclosed some troubleshooting feedback with my counterpart in getting the system up.
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2. make sure you have the portal ips in your host file.
3. have they have created an account for you in client 001 of the NW04S?
4. Have they created a portal id for you and assign the portal role com.sap.ip.bi.business_planning_showcase to you?
5. have they configured the setting for starting the planning modeler (also under SPRO)..
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Help on few questions on Personnel Cost Planning Detail (tx. PHCPDETL)

Hi Experts
I have few questions on Personnel Cost Planning Detail (tx. PHCPDETL) :
1. User authorizations can be restricted to Cost Item Level and/or Cost Center.?
2. Is it advisable to use structural authorizations on Planners- Line Manager levels? Can budget personnel cost plan be posted incompleted?
3. Can a cost item created for an Org Unit be populated through all Persons-Positions in your Plan?
4. Can you have general guideliness check for each event that line managers apply to their personnel cost plan?5. Is there an automatic way to display (not using Insert Quota Feature not IT1019) the Vacants in your Organizational domain?
6. Can I have by roles definition, Cost Items to be used by an specific planner through all plans?
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Amilcar

Pl check this <a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/d6/031c3ac9fb1d75e10000000a114084/frameset.htm">SAP Help</a> for more info on SSO.
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Create the personnel cost plan in the organizational view

Respect to Hcm consultants,
what does "create the personnel cost plan in the organizational view" mean? I mean how do i create PCP in organizational view and i create them in controlling view. whats the difference between both of them and how to access both of them as well.
your feed back would be highly appreciated.
Regards
Waqas Anwar

Hi,
you have to run your object data selection for multi years as well. First do this for the person, tha n do it for the position, than for the job. Than you can delete the data from the position and automatically the data from the job is taken (in average) for the position for the period you select.
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regards,
Frans

Personnel Cost Planning - uregent pls

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Be overtime / gratuity has a complicated calculation hence needs to attened with care. Can anyone tell me how to address this use. Heard you can use BADI in PCL5. if so how to go about that. If not do anyone has anyother solutions. i need this info on an urgent basis. ur help will me much appreciated and rewarded.
thanks in advance.

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Personnel Cost Planning in 6.0

Hi Gurus
I have heard that personnel cost planning have changed a lot in version 6.0, where a lot of it is run by portal.
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Is it possible to run cost planning with out the portal in 6.0 ?
and if yes,
Can i expect less funtionality than with R/3?
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Jacob

Hi,
Personnel Management component, you can find more information in SAP Library under Human Resources u2192 Personnel Management u2192 Compensation Management u2192 Personnel Cost Planning
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Personnel Cost Planning - Detail Planning

I would like to ask you if some user in R3 system can handle the detail planning functionality of personnel cost planning component for all the plans-scenarios for all existing organizational units;
how is it possible and through wich connection between the user and this role.
(For example this user must be able to add or to increase cost items to the total sum of the company)
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Hello Andreas,
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And also please check if your cost plan has the 'Detail Planning Possible' date filled in, because it should be maintained.
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resposible objects? (Se18)
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We are facing an issue where there is no authorization checking when performing the Cost Planning functions. The requirement here is to put in an authorization check such that when:
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2) Creating, generating, viewing and maintenance of cost plan (e.g. tcode: PHCPADMN), it should have the same checking as above
We are using SAP ECC 6.0.
Has anyone encounter the same issue and has a resolution for it (configuration or user exit?)? I see that there is a user exit HRHCP00_RESP_OBJECTS available, but it does not provide the authorization check even when it returns "NO_AUTHORITY".
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Alex

Hi Alex,
I am not very sure about Personnel Cost Planning,
But an approach I have used in the past when exploring a module about which there is limited documentation or SAP standard model roles is to
1) Switch on Trace using ST01.
2) Carry out a series of transcations using a user id which has a lot of authorizations or SAP_ALL.
3) Anlayse the trace document and identify all the authorization object.
4) BUild a new role with the auth objects and assign to test user id.
5) test and confirm that the authorizations are not too many or too less.
A time consuming but thorough approach.
hope this helps.

Business content-Personnel Cost Planning

Hi, expert
Now, our clients work in HR dept. wants to do personnel cost planning in BW side.
1) is there any standard business content for Personnel Cost Planning in SAP?
2) and if we have how to active these required BCT.
3) Does SAP have 'personnel cost planning' best practice? If Yes, please post useful links just about 'personnel cost planning' best practice information and documentation.
Thanks for your kind support.

Hello,
See this link for [Personnel Cost Planning|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/88/b11d3ca2a25013e10000000a114084/frameset.htm] and [Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/13/be533dd5ce930fe10000000a114084/frameset.htm]
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Personnel Cost Planning Authorization against planning context.

Hi Experts,
I have a query regarding the authorization against a Planning Context in Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation.
How can we set a autoziation against the Planning Context in PCP. So that a given Planning specialist is prevented from viewing the planning details of other planning specialist.
I checked the standard object PLOG and PLOG_CON, both seemed to not to be of any help.
Have any one come across this scenario.
Thanks,
Arun.

Hi Alex,
I am not very sure about Personnel Cost Planning,
But an approach I have used in the past when exploring a module about which there is limited documentation or SAP standard model roles is to
1) Switch on Trace using ST01.
2) Carry out a series of transcations using a user id which has a lot of authorizations or SAP_ALL.
3) Anlayse the trace document and identify all the authorization object.
4) BUild a new role with the auth objects and assign to test user id.
5) test and confirm that the authorizations are not too many or too less.
A time consuming but thorough approach.
hope this helps.

Integration between Budgeting and Personnel cost planning

Respect to all HCM consultants,
I am working on personnel cost planning and compensation management. I would like to use the value of personnel cost planning scanarios on approval as the value for budget. in other words i want to integrate PCP and budgeting. if some one could help me out, will be highly appreciated.
I don't have experience in integration at all.

this option of PCOST is already there in standard system.
so what do i have to do . should i leave it as well and make release one PCP scenario and from there budget will automatically be created or what?
one more thing is the point of contact between these two sub modules is Cost centre ???
Edited by: waqas anwar on Jan 1, 2008 12:08 PM

T.Code Personnel Cost Planning

What are the T.Code important for Personnel Cost Planning
Kind Regards

Hi Sanew2,
PCP t-codes:
PHCPADCO     Post Cost Planning Data to CO
PHCPADMN     Manage Cost Planning Data
PHCPCLCO     Display Original Document (Cluster)
PHCPCLPL     Display Plan Data (Cluster)
PHCPDCDL     Delete Infotype Data
PHCPDCEM     Collect Cost Planning Data: Employee
PHCPDCOO     Collect Cost Planning Data: OrgObj
PHCPDCPY     Manage Data from Payroll
PHCPDCUI     Maintain Data Basis
PHCPDETL     Detailed planning
PHCPDETLC     Detail Planning Cent.Pers.Respons.
PHCPISCO     Display Original Documents
PHCPISCP     Compare Personnel Cost Plans
PHCPISDT     Display Plan Data Changes
PHCPISPL     Display Plan Data
PHCPPRMV     Delete Plan (All Information)
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When jumping from SAP system to the Internet Browser from the application of the Personnel Cost Planning we cannot see the plan and the cost unit, although all the necessary customizing settings have been done successfully and the relevant cost plan has been released.
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