Position Hierarchy Diagram

Dear All
We are upgrading from Oracle 11.0.3 to R12. The Organization Diagram is working fine.But the Position Hierarchy Diagram is empty. The position hierarchy is set properly.
In the Job window nothing is updated in front end, but there are 32 records in per_jobs table. Because of this, In assignment window job LOV is empty and in the position table job is empty.
Is this could be a reason of the position hierarchy diagram empty.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nakshathra

-- Diagrammer Window shows Blank, even if the Position Heriarchy set correctly----
Hi,
Currently we have a SR(TAR) pending from oracle regarding the same issue as we have upgraded from 11.5.10.2 Family pack k rollup 1 to Family Pack K rollup 2.
Oracle has identified this as a bug and assigned to their development team.
Regards,
Naga

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914612 wrote:
Dear user13056460,
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