Position hierarchy in organizational model in SAP CRM

Hello,
My project has a requirement wherein there needs to exist a reporting hierarchy between different positions. e.g. 'Sales Rep' reports to 'Sales Manager', 'Sales Manager' reports to 'Sales Head', etc. However, I have been unable to create relationships between positions in an organizational unit. Please guide me on how to achieve this.
Thanks,
Aditya Mishra

In ppoma_crm click on org unit and under right-click choose option 'Assign' and then select option 'Incorporates'.

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I was unable to create position hierarchy in organizational hierarchy. I want to maintain position hierarchy within an organization. But SAP CRM is not allowing that. I was able to create organizational hierarchy. Please let me know, how can I maintain the position hierarchy within the same organization?
--hari

Hi hari,
it is only possible to have a hierarchy with two levels on position level. Therefore you create two positions below your organization (tx ppoma_crm). At one of these positions you set the flag "Head of own organizational unit" at the Basic data tab of the position (To see this, you need to display the Details of the positions at the bottom of the screen). Now you can assign a business partner (or more) to this position which is (are) the Head of this unit.
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https://help.sap.com/bp_crmv12007/CRM_DE/BBLibrary/html/C01_EN_DE.htm
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I am not a law expert, but if you can create users, I am sure you can create a dummy position and assign your role there.
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Enhaced backend integration - Org model is used when there is more than one "org" attribute is assigned to higher org node , e.g. two sales offices assigned to one sales org.
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           We are implementing CRM 5.0 and I generated Organizational Model in system using Report: CRM_ORGMAN_R3_ORGDATA_GENERATE. This report generated organizational model with no errors. But there is a issue with org model:
In our R/3 system same sales office are assigned to multiple sales area and same salesgroups are assigned to multiple sales office due to this in CRM when the org model generated it only assigned the sales office and sales group to sales org 1000 however sales org 2000 and 3000 left unassigned.
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Its common that the sales office are only assigned to the first sales organiz unit in
CRM structure in PPOMA_CRM. The same for the sales groups that are only assigned under the first sales office unit in CRM structure in PPOMA_CRM.
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1002              10         01
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1002              1100                  10         01
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1001              1200                  10         01
1002              1200                  10         01
1003              1200                  10         01
1001              1300                  10         01
1002              1300                  10         01
1003              1300                  10         01
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