Positioning Objects on the Page.

Hi, Expert:
How can I position two objects on the page relatively? Say, I have two data tables, or one data table and after the table, some other object (button?, etc). B/c I don't know how many rows will return from the database, if I placed two tables too close, the first table will overlay the second one below. Is there a way to place them relatively so the second one will be always at the end of the first one?
Thanks
Jimmy

Yes, and it's pretty easy :)
Drag and drop a GroupPanel component to the page and put both tables into it.
Or you can try changing the layout of the page to Flow Layout, but I use the GroupPanel.

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