Possible to boot MBP 10.5.4 from iBook G3 10.4.11?

I continue to try to find solution for apparent sudden death of my MBP 2.16 core2 on 10.5.4. White light comes on, no screen. Took in Disc1 from original 10.4 install but won't boot or eject. Reset PM.
Can I use my iBook G3 640mb ram on 10.4.11 connected by ethernet cable to boot it enough to try to work with it? Or will I then have both down? There is also an ext. HD with a bootable clone (week old) of the system but it won't do anything either (but most data is saved at least!).
I live in Mexico for now 5 hours south of Cancun and 5+ hours from the nearest possible service. Advice is welcome.

No, you cannot boot an Intel Mac from a PPC version of OS X in a PPC Mac. You would need another Intel Mac and an Intel version of OS X.
If you have a tested bootable clone and cannot start the computer with it nor boot it from the original OS X Installer Disc that came with it, then it's likely you have a major hardware problem.
Also see Troubleshooting a MacBook or MacBook Pro that won't turn on. Other possible help in Troubleshooting- My computer won't turn on.

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