Possible to upgrade to a fingerprint reader? (X220)

Hello.
I'm getting a ThinkPad X220 soon, and I was wondering if I upgrade to a fingerprint reader. The one I will recieve comes with the stock palmrest, so if I bought a palmrest with the fingerprint reader, would it work with the correct drivers?
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Just a FYI. I did some poking around on this and found something interesting, so I thought I'd pass it along.
Disclaimer: I have NOT tried this, and don't even own the fingerprint reader in question.
Anyway, here's the trail I followed...
The ThinkWiki page here:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrate … int_reader
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504399
So I downloaded the libfprint-0.4.0-1.fc15 and fprintd-0.4.1-1.fc15 Fedora 15 source RPM packages by drilling down from here:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates … b1ec4e90dc
Then I exploded the RPMs and looked at the "spec" files... and here's where it got interesting.
Fedora seems to be getting the source code for both libfprint and fprintd from here:
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