Post Power Supply replacement problems

Hello,
I'm trying to resuscitate my PowerMac G5 after a power supply failure and I'm having some issues. I've reached the end of my expertise and so I need to reach out to the community in hopes of being pointed in the right direction.
So here's the series of event that led me to where I'm at right now along with some symptoms:
- My PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 (june 2004) died in a puff of smoke one day, smelled like burnt plastic. I was pretty sure it was a power supply issue. My computer does not qualify for the Apple extended PSU replacement program. After the death, the power supply would click whenever it was plugged in but otherwise the computer was unresponsive.
- I ordered in a new 600W power supply and replaced the toasted one. I took care to place the CPUs back exactly where they were to avoid having to re-calibrate them.
- I plugged my computer back in with the same configuration minus the second hard drive. The primary hard drive should be bootable.
- The first time I powered it on it had no monitor or keyboard/mouse connected. The fans went off at normal speed, the chime chimed and then the fans went full speed.
- I powered it off and plugged in a keyboard/mouse and monitor and now when I power it on I can hear the fans, then the chime then the CD drive reads a bit of the CD and then that's it. No video.
- It somehow seems to ignore the keyboard and mouse: I can't use the keyboard to reset the PRAM. I can't use the mouse to open the CD tray.
- Powering the computer down requires the "press and hold for 2 sec" versus the immediate power down like when the computer is in Target Disk mode.
- The power status led doesn't flash in anyway at boot, indicating no problem with the RAM, ROM or processors.
- The diagnosis lights inside the mac are not lit until I remove the plastic cover which triggers the default behavior of running the fans at full speed. Then the led lights up.
- I reset the PMU but it didn't seem to make a difference.
- I tried accessing the disk in Target Disk mode but since the keyboard appears to be ignored I don't think the G5 even gets in Target Disk mode. In any case it doesn't mount on the remote computer.
- I notice that the fan on the video card doesn't spin. The video card is an ATI 800XT with a Zallman fan and heatsync installed.
I'd be tempted to say that the video card got fried with the PSU failure but then shouldn't I be able to use the keyboard to reset the PRAM and such ? The fact that I'm unable to do that leads me to believe that perhaps a part of the logic board or the front panel got fried...
How would I go about troubleshooting this without buying a new logic board and front panel ?
Any ideas ?

Going through the exact same issue started about 1.5 weeks ago thinking about giving up and buying a Mac mini for access and snow leopard.

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