Post System Copy Process

Hello,
We are getting ready to install new servers and we will be performing a homogenous copy process to the new servers which will have new names and ID on the network. We would like to run the new servers side by side with the current system so we can test. My questions are:
1) With the systems running on the network together and we are ready to cut over to the new servers, would I just need to backup and restore the DB to the new DB server? Or do I have to go through the whole system copy process again?
2) The first process we are using the R3Load because we have SQL 2000/Windows 2000. I understand the System Copy process with the Export file and then the migration (import) file, but do all of the post processes that are involved according to the System Copy guide have to be implemented again if I am able to simply restore the DB after doing the inital copy as described above?
3) Any thoughts to how I can accomplish running the servers together for awhile for testing then cutting over to the new ones? Any quick notes from the field that would help make this easier?
Thank you all so much,
Jason

>ERROR => DpHdlDeadWp: W14 (pid 3018) died http://dpxxdisp.c 14531
the Work process are getting terminated.
can you please paste full log from dev_w0 and dev_disp and std*
>we upgraded the new kernel
why don't you use the same kernel as same as source system?
cheers,
-Sunil

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>
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>
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Juan
I deleted all the 3 systems from the transport routes & reconfigured afresh using a the standard 3 system landscape
I succesfully tested by
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Edited by: Andale J on Oct 18, 2010 4:24 PM

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