Posting of semi finished products

Hello Everyone,
I had an issue regarding posting of semi finished products. Earlier during production, Production executives had created some production orders for semi finished products and had not transferred the corresponding quantities to the store. Still production continued for the top level finished products and GR has occured for the same. Later these production orders for finished products were also set the status TECO.
Now upon analysing the system still shows the production orders open for the semi-finished products. Now its practically impossible to trace back against which superior level order this semi finished order is raised.
Moreover since these orders are still open, the system does'nt raise additional orders for the corresponding quantities wheras these orders were raised earlier for previous orders.
I would greatly appreciate any help to tackle this issue.
Sincerely,
Aji Kurian Mani
Edited by: Aji Kurian Mani on Jan 11, 2010 6:48 AM

Hi,
Pls run the optimiser with prod = A and Loc = A+B
It should work fine. Also in the t code /sapapo/mvm, check if the check box for 'No planned orders without source of supply' is clicked or not. If it is clicked, then you need to maintain a PPM for prod A at loc B. If it is unchecked, optimiser will create planned orders for A at loc B even without a PPM.
Pls let me know if this helps.
Regards
Manotosh

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Hello Everyone,
I had an issue regarding transferring of semi finished products to stores. Earlier during production, Production executives had created some production orders for HALB and had not transferred the corresponding quantities to the store. Still production continued for the top level finished products and GR has occured for the same. Later these production orders were also set the status TECO.
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I would greatly appreciate any help to tackle this issue.
Sincerely,
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