Posting subsequent debit without reference to PO

Hi Guru,
Can someone advise me on how SAP can handle this scenario?
1) PO created
2) GR
3) Invoice received.
4) Email received that there is a price increase for this material. No PO reference is given as this is an intercompany purchase
How do i pay the vendor and at the same time adjust the inventory value only(quantity not adjusted) in this case?
Initially, I was thinking of doing the subsequent debit. However, subsequent debit needs PO reference or some documents reference which I don't have.
Thanks in advance on the help.
Regards,
Zhulk

do you really pay just on email notifications?
Isn't it a legal requirment to receive a debit note?
Further ask your vendor (especially if it is an internal vendor it should be easy) for which POs the price increase takes place.
Further you can search for POs with various transactions in SAP.

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