Potential Switch to Mac Pro

I may be switching to a Mac Pro from a PC and had a few questions. I have worked a lot with *Nix so I like the idea of switching due to OS X being based on that.
Here are my questions:
1.I am seeing a lot of problems with Leopard on these boards. I have noticed though that a lot of them seem to be from people upgrading and not many from brand new computers. Am I correct in that assumption?
2.I have a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 running DD-WRT, should that work with a Mac Pro?
3.I have a bunch of fonts on my XP Pro system since I do a lot of creative work (photo,web,video,etc) can they be put on the Mac Pro without issue?
4.I have seen a few problems with people saying the usb hub in their cinema display causes problems, is it just the cinema displays or any monitor?
5. Are Mac Pros prone to overheating? If so is there something I can do to avoid that? I live in Reno,NV and it can get hot during summer so that is a worry for me.
Sorry for all the questions but I just want to make sure I cover all my bases before making a huge switch. To be honest I used to be a die-hard PC fan and didn't like Macs except for the OS and now that it looks like Vista may be the new ME and I want something different I figure it may be a good time to eat some crow and switch
TIA!!
Message was edited by: PlaneGeek

I can only comment on a few of the items.
1. I haven't had any 'real' problems with any of my upgrades to Leopard on my various machines. Leopard has been very stable for me.
3. GFTrout is right on the fonts, but there are solutions for PostScript fonts. Here is [one|http://guides.macrumors.com/UsingWindows_and_X11_PostScript_Fonts_in_Mac_OSX].
5. None of my Mac Pros are prone to overheating. It can get pretty hot here in OKC too. I wouldn't think you would have problems unless the room it was in wasn't air-conditioned. My office at home in the summer (with AC on) usually ends up being in the upper 70's to lower 80's during the day (west-facing with windows.) As for avoiding overheating, it is wise to keep the MP off of the floor, plenty of air circulating at the front of the MP and a decent amount of space behind the MP for exhaust. The exhaust can get pretty hot so you want air to be able to get behind the MP to dissipate that heat.
Hope this helps...
D.

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