Power consumption and on/off status?

Greetings!
One: I am trying to find out what the power consumption is for the iPod Hi-Fi in watts.
Two: Is the Hi-Fi drawing power if the Hi-Fi is plugged into the wall but the iPod is not in the dock?
These questions are not covered in the literature nor on the website. When I called the Helpline, six different customer service and technical support staffers didn't know either answer. The Apple Store employees in San Diego also didn't know.
A suggestions for the next generation of Hi-Fi: Make it so the unit does not draw power unless an iPod is in the dock or an auxiliary input plug is not connected.
This would allow my Hi-Fi to be placed in a bookcase in a semi-permanent installation not requiring the need to be unplugged everytime the iPod was not in use.
Thanks,
Ralph
iPod 30GB & iPod Hi-Fi

One: I am trying to find out what the power
consumption is for the iPod Hi-Fi in watts.
Are you interested in the sound output, as specified by many loudspeaker makers? Or did you only want to know the drain from the mains supply, for cost or environmental reasons?
If the latter, finding someone with a watt meter would be the easiest way. Apple do not specify the power consumption. I would guess they didn't want to get into a competition about whose loudspeaker has the most music power (since everyone lies).
If I had to guess, I would think around 25 watts peak when running on batteries, around 80 watts peak when running on AC. That is a very rough guess based on how long batteries last (5 hours), the sound output difference between battery (102dB) and AC (108dB), and the likely efficiency of their amplifier (80%).
Testing with a watt meter would be a much better way to come up with a figure. I gather they are cheap and readily available in the USA (scarce and expensive here).
Two: Is the Hi-Fi drawing power if the Hi-Fi is
plugged into the wall but the iPod is not in the
dock?
Yes. Any device with a soft power switch draws power when not physically unplugged. However I would imagine in that state consumption would be less than one watt. Apple would almost certainly have used the same methods they use to reduce power on sleeping computers (when there is no input signal for a while).

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