Power down issue on a K9N SLI-2F (601-7250-090)

I have a K9N-2F with the serial number 601-7250-090 Kxxxxblablabala
According to the sticky on the powerdown issue it should not be affected.
But since about a month it will power down when I download large files.
It always powers down the first 5-6 times when I switch the computer on.
Then it works, sometimes for hours, sometimes for minutes.
But it always shuts down when I download files from the internet or p2p.
If I disable the LAN-controllers the computer runs just fine, with no powerdowns even on startup.
Do I have this problem as well? I have the latest BIOS. Is there anything I could do or do I have to get MSI to replace it?
Regardsfrom Sweden.

Tja mannen
I have a Amd Athlon64 6000+ (125W)
XION 630W PSU with 21A rails.
2gb Corsair Value Select 5300 DDR
I know the amps is a bit low but the PSU is not the problem... I have managed to narrow it down to the LAN controllers.
If I push my GF8800 grahics card to the limit nothing happens, so it couldn't be the PSU.
But if I start up IE or Firefox and dowload a file or enters a heavy webpage the computer shuts down.
Also it ALWAYS shuts down 5-6 times when I boot up the first time after having the computer turned off over night.'
Then it runs allright for 5 minutes up to a few hours.
If I disable the LAN controllers the computer never shuts down,
When I start up Azerus it shuts down after just a few minutes.
This problem started about a month ago.
It worked just fine for 4 months.
I tried giving the CPU more juice, but that didn't help.
The DDR runs at 1.90v bydefault.

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Dear Kamal,
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Detailed Description and what I've tried
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True, the computer doesn't need that amount of power.....but....
You are miscalculating the powersupply.
Just because it states it can do 17A (or what ever figure) it doesn't do that all the time.
Here you have the details of how a PSU handles output, then you might have a clue what we are talking about:
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3) Specify a low operating temperature for rated output. This is quite common, but again not often seen in consumer brochures, but rather tech spec sheets provided usually only on demand by engineers or corp buyers. A typical PSU operating temp statement is somthing like this:
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So let's say 40?C is a fairly typical temp inside a PSU. This 400W rated unit would actually be able to deliver a max of just 220W at that temp. Hmmm. Interesting, isn't it? At 50?C, the available power would drop to just 130W. No wonder some PSUs have 3 fans each capable of 50 cfm!!
Here's a simple fact: Really high quality PSUs are actually rated for full power output at as high as 50?C. The trick is get a hold of the spec sheets that tell such information so you can compare apples to apples. Or ask.
Source: >>SilentPCreview<<
I suggest you start reading on their site as to what they have to say about powersupplies.
As those PSU's DO NOT DELIVER the amount of power under all conditions....many people have blown their system to pieces already by ignoring the heat-factor.
That is we are telling all along, you don't need 33Amps....but you need loads of headroom when summertime temps are there.
Because then your PSU doesn't deliver near the ammount of power you think it does.
Also, split rails are far worse then single rails when it comes to that...heck a lot of so called splitrails are not splitted at all, like the some of the Coolermasters....
Do yourself a favor and get to know how PSU's work, as they are NOT what you think they are.
And to quote a bit more from the same source:
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What's really interesting is that Intel has tacitly waived the 240VA limit requirement in its PSU validation program for the better part of a year. Intel maintains a web page listing all the ATX12V they have tested that "meet MINIMUM electrical, mechanical fit and functional compatibility" with Intel desktop boards and processors. For the 32 ATX12V v2.2 PSUs tested in 2005 that are on this list, 17 models are identified as having at least one output line that exceeds 240VA. And yet, these 17 models are on Intel's approved list.
According to the engineers I spoke with, the majority of these 17 models have just one 12V line. They also point out that there are another 20 or so ATX12V v2.0 PSU models on the Intel list, and none of them were tested for the 240VA current limit conformance. My sources say that if these models had been tested, more than half would not conform to the 240VA current limit because they have only one 12V line.
In the last couple of months, my PS engineering sources report, Intel has verbally informed them that the 240VA limit has been removed. A single 12V line is now "officially" approved, never mind what ATX12V v2.2 specifies.
What does all this mean? Essentially, the only potential benefit of dual 12V lines is improved safety, and this is questioned by the engineers I spoke with. There are many downsides to dual 12V lines, including higher cost and the extra headache of ensuring adequate 12V current for all the components in complex, high power systems. For the consumer who is trying to make a choice among the myriad of PSUs available on the retail market today, the most practical approach regarding dual 12V lines and power capacity is to consider only the combined 12V current capacity. (It will certainly be interesting to see how Intel handles this issue in the next version of ATX12V.)
But you better read their site, as there is way more info there regarding PSU's then any other site I know of.

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Well, the question about the PSU made me take a good look at the thing and it turns out it is a dual rail PSU or whatever they call it. When I was looking through the forum for similar problems I noticed that a lot of you out there hate those because they more then once cause problems...
Since I didn't have any way to check the PSU I yust bought myself a relatively cheap one, single rail, with 420V and what do ya know... It now works perfectly again.
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"starting" means my fans and everything else starts running. Well, starting means the power goes on(and stays on) with the familiar whirr of the fans . starting also implies the OS and everything else works. However I cant even get the power to stay on before pushing the power button about 30 times. Slowly and surely it powers up but it really struggles as of late. Its an old computer(about 5 years) and it was running fine until about a week ago.
Im merely a casual user of my pc, although I enjoy playing games such as world of warcraft, rift or any other MMO. I was thinking that it could be the power supply that is on it's last leg. However, I dont know how to change to a new one, despite reading the guides posted here. I also checked the power supply manual but the information contained within was far too technical for me to comprehend, it might aswell have been written in chinese.
Im also hesitant to flash BIOS as I have never done such a thing and as far as I know I might fry the whole system if I dont do it right. Lets asume I want to change the powersupply for a new one, should I go with an identical model as the old one? The power supply is a HIPER type-R series 580 W. I can provide all the technical data if necessary, I just want to solver the problem. I cant really think of any other likely solution as it should work asuming the power suppy isnt the problem. I reinstalled the OS from scratch anyway thinking it might be a software problem.
Could the problem also be caused by an old BIOS version? Not sure which one I have right now but considering I have never dared to update it, its more than likely an old version.

P6N Platinum - Power down on boot

I am looking for help in building my P6N Platinum based system. I will boot to VGA Bios and then power itself down. I can see the Machine write the VGA BIOS to the screen before power down, and the last light set on the D-Bracket is VGA BIOS write to screen. Only problem here is that card works fine in other machines and is less than a week old as a factory replacement for a previous card. I doubt it is the source.
I swapped out a P4N that fried the previous XFX card, so This is getting very frustrating. New motherboard, new PCIE VGA card, yet another set of problems.
I've been a longtime user and system builder with MSI products, But I suspect that compared to some here, I am still very wet behind the ears.
I have:
P6N Platinum v1.0
XFX 7600 PCIE SLI in x16 slot of course
Corsair XMS2-5400 2x512, timing of 4-4-4-12; 675MHz. Supposedly 1.9v
Ultra 600W power supply with 18a & 20a per rail. 8 Pin CPU plug & 24 Pin ATX. 4 Sata & 6 Standard Molex plugs
I have tried everything on a cardboard box and in the case. Grounding is not an issue.
Have tried multiple power supplies already. I still have Newegg's RMA period, but want to rule out my other parts first. I cannot get to Post ever, so flashing Bios is not an option. Have tried to reset Bios three times already.

Quote from: AaronYuri on 15-July-07, 09:10:48
It's 10 seconds easy for dual core. And it would explain the cut outs, the CPU shutting down the cores when there's too much heat.
I reinstalled the processor and heatsink, and the machine will post and I can get to Bios. But after about 1 minute, the screen goes blank. It does not matter if I try let the OS load or go to the Bios. After about 60sec the machine will lock up and the screen will go blank. The fans are still spinning, the machine is still on, and the amber and green MB LED's are still lit. But nothing will happen. Blank screen, regardless of what I do.
I suspect the CPU fan is not going fast enough and perhaps is damaged. I have ordered a warranty replacement from Intel.
My question is, I tried to turn the machine on about 5 times tonight and got the blank screen. I have stopped trying now, but is it possible any of the MB was damaged by this trying? I still have 20 days left to RMA to Newegg.
Does anyone have any other ideas why this may be happening?
Specs are as listed above, Power supply is http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2974500&CatId=1483

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