Power for dual ethernet/snow airport

I have an old AirPort dual ethernet which I would like to lend to a friend who just got a MacBook but is currently using dial-up internet. The problem is that in it getting down off the shelf, I found three different power bricks, one 5V and two 12V. One of the two 12V power bricks has a light grey wire, which would be a better color match than the others. That is the only hint as none say "Apple."
What are the power requirements of this old AirPort?

12V
AirPort Base Station (Dual Ethernet) - Technical Specifications

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Is it possible to configure a Dual Ethernet (Snow) Airport base station using only a pc running Windows XP? If so, which version of the admin utility should I use and what's the exact process in order to get things setup?
We've performed a hard-reset but it will not allow us to update the base station using 4.2 for Windows, because there's an error connecting to it via ethernet.
Thanks!

Thanks. That has helped point us in the right direction. In addition, I found this info particularly helpful in order to set the TCP/IP settings in the Network control panel:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106685
After changing those settings, we were able to configure and update the base station.
However, after putting the TCP/IP settings back the way they were (obtain IP automatically instead of manually), the PC connected via the LAN port and the wireless can't connect to the internet at all. The base settings reveal that it's using an IP address starting with 169.xxx.xxx.xxx which tells me it can't get a real IP from the cable modem. Unplugging the cable modem, base station, restarting, etc. aren't doing the trick. Oh so close. I'll keep you posted unless you have any further suggestions.

How Do I setup Dual Ethernet (Snow Saucer) base as "repeater" for Extreme

Just migrated from G4 iBook to an MBP. Currently still using my Snow Saucer (Dual Ethernet) airport base station (had to communicate with the Base using the iBook, and manually enter the MAC address of the MBP).
When I go to the trouble of setting up my Airport Extreme to become the base station to which my DSL line is connected, I also want to use the old Saucer as a "repeater" to get a better signal somewhere else.
Where are the instructions for doing this?
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However, extreme and express base stations can be configured to to act as relays and receivers for Graphite and Snow base stations.
With no setting or availability of WDS capability on the dual ethernet device, I fail to see how this would be possible.
Setting this up is fiddly because you have to configure the bridges to connect to an ABS via a MAC address.
And, the ABS must also be configured with the MAC address of the other devices in the WDS, but there are no provisions to do this.
If you want, I'll send you a link for MacTracker, which lists all models and specifications.
It might be possible to run ethernet from one of the other AirPorts, configure the dual ethernet version in "bridge mode" (if possible) and then have it create a wireless network. To be part of the "same" wireless network, it would need to be setup to use the same wireless network name, security and password as the "main" network.
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Dual port/Snow AIrport BS freezes intermittently

I have a Snow airport base station which used to work perfectly. Now it jams up every 24 hours or so, although I haven't made any changes that I am aware of. The Airport is connected to a cable modem through the WAN port, and I have a Powerbook linked by wireless and a G5 linked by ethernet cable to it. When it locks, neither computer can get through to the internet. The Powerbook continues to show a strong wifi signal. Airport Admin cannot find the base station from either computer. Nevertheless, the status lights continue to show no problem (centre on steadily, left and right both flickering). Pulling out the mains plug and restarting gets it going again until the next time it locks.
What is the likely problem - and is there a cure?
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Welcome to the discussions forum zelman!
I don't believe you'll find an option to turn off the radio on a Snow using Airport Utility. You may be able to reduce its transmitter power though.
If you're not averse to disassembling it you can simply remove its Airport card. I don't know if that will affect its router though. The card may be of value to those with older equipment, since it's not made any more. At worst you can just disconnect its antenna.
Here's a link to its teardown. It seems easy enough, why don't you try it?
http://www.vonwentzel.net/ABS/Snow/index.html

Why does my Dual Ethernet Snow APBS not get an answer?

My computer connects to the modem, the modem dials my service provider, but I get a "There was no answer" message. However, I can immediately switch the phone line to my Graphite or APE and they dial right through to my ISP.
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personalg33k wrote:
Sorry if my explanation of the problem was not clear, but the HD's are fine. I have checked them using fsck, disk warrior, TechTool Pro. they are fine. The drives are not showing up at all, and SATA shows "no information" Once in a while SATA will start working again briefly, then just GO AWAY! And the PCI SATA card I installed acts the same way. I am leaving one HD in the logicboard and one in the PCI card and they both go away (not the whole PCI card, just the HD).
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OK, since you are also having things go away with the PCI SATA controller, this could be a problem with either (a) PCI-X bridge or (b) the U3 Memory controller, as they are the two things in the chain between the CPU and where you are having the problems.
Do you have other PCI cards in use? If so, then if you lose contact with them, that would be a clue.
On the other hand, you seemed to indicate that even when the Tempo lost the HD, you could still see the Tempo in System Profiler? If the Tempo is still shown in profiler, then, we have a real mystery on our hands. Of course, a system log file wouldn't help because you have lost it, unless you are booting from an external FW drive.
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Can the airport express and dual ethernet airport base create a wds? I can't find the options on the airport base's software.

coloradoapple, Welcome to the discussion area!
The Dual Ethernet (snow) AirPort base station (ABS) does not support WDS.
Only the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) and AirPort Express (AX) support WDS.

Airport Dual Ethernet

I have added a Mac Mini to my network. It is connected via ethernet cable to my ABS Dual Ethernet Snow. I can connect each computer via the ABS.
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Hi.
I did a hard reset on this puppy, successfully.
Connected to my ibookG4 via ethernet cable (LAN port).
Doesn't show up.
Tried searching under "Configure Other" in the Utility for addresses 192.42.249.13 and 10.0.1.1 with the password 'public'.
No luck.
The old Airport 2.0 isn't compatible with my OS, so that's not an option.
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I have Optimum Online (aka Cablevision).
When I connect directly to the cable modem with an ethernet cable, I have internet.
When I connect the modem to the Airport, the lights flash in tandem so I know there is a connection. But even though my computer shows that I'm connected to the Airport, I can't get internet on my computer.
I've been messing with this for a while, reset the base station with Airport Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow. No luck.
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It looks as though you need to make the cable modem forget the computer and start afresh with the base station.
Shut down all network computers and power down the base station. Then reset the cable modem with its reset button if it has one. If it doesn't have a reset button, disconnect its power (possibly including batteries). Then start up the devices, waiting 5 minutes before each one, in this order: modem, base station, computer.
If that doesn't work, you might need to power down the modem overnight.

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I have been able to configure the ABS dual ethernet using the LAN connection, but when I disconnect the ethernet cable the imac does not see the ABS. How do I get the imac to recognize the ABS or how do I connect to the ABS?
I am using airport admin utility for graphite and snow version 4.2.5. The admin utility does not show the ABS wirelessly, but will show it while connected using the ethernet cable.
I have tried doing a hard reset, but the original name remains and does not change and the soft reset does not do anything. the middle light blinks once every second and I have followed the manuals for hard and soft reset.
How do I get the computer to recognize the ABS?

If you're sure you've configured the airport to create a new network and its not showing up wirelessly, either the wireless functions of the airport or your computer are not working properly.
If you have several computers capable of wireless, check them all to see if the airport network shows up. If not, then the airport base station may be bad. (check out those new airport extremes, they're nice )
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Airport Dual Ethernet connecting to DSL.

My normal system is a Windows XP PC connected to 2wire dsl router from SBC. My wife has an iBook(the white one)that we are trying to get connected to the internet using an Airport Dual ethernet. THe iBook has a wireless card installed and before I moved all I did was plug the airport into the DSL router and all was well. Now what is happening is that as soon as I plug the airport into the router it I lose my PC internet connection, even more frustrating is that I still can't access the interent via the iBook.
I am totally unfamiliar with the Mac OS so this just adds to my frustration. Are there any resources/guidance/books that would help a new wireless Mac user on configuring the airport to connect to the same router as a windows PC without screwing it all up?
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Jamie
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Hello, I'm new to Mac's as well, but I hope I can help narrow down the source of the problem a little.
You said "and before I moved all I did was". I take that to mean you moved from one home to another. Does that mean that you also have a new DSL service provider (which means they provided you with the DSL router you are using. A couple things to try to semi isolate the problem, or at least try to narrow it down to one device having issues.
Try to connect to the internet with each computer individually using the DSL router, one at a time. Do they both work that way?
Try connecting the airport only, then connecting to the internet with each computer individually (the other should be powered down so it doesn't try to connect when wireless becomes available {hopefully}). Do they work this way?
If they work, or one does but not the other you have provided yourself wirh a wealth of information to offer the experts (no that's not me), I'm afraid I won't be much help beyond this. The reason for this method is that you may discover that something has happened to your system(s) (hopefully not) during your move(?), or your service provider (new) may have provided you with a faulty router (just a couple of possibilities).
Another thing, have you installed any new software, or updates recently, like just before the connection stopped working.
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I've upgraded to the latest version of Mac OS and now AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow 4.2.5 won't run. Any suggestions on how to either run this utility or otherwise get access to my old Snow Dual Airport via another method?
Unfortunately, you will need another Mac running a much earlier version of OS X to be able to install AirPort Admin Utility and make any settings chances to the router.
Since the normal life of a wireless router is around 5-6 years of use, now might be the time to consider a new router that will provide far better performance than the older Graphite/Snow AirPort.

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I have a dual ethernet Airport base station connected to a cable modem. I started having connectivity problems between the airport and my three Macs (G5, G4 Powerbook 17-inch and older G4 Powerbook 15-inch) a couple of days ago. Today none of the Macs can access the internet.
I've tried everything: using Airport Admin to reconfigure, resetting the base station, working with the cable internet ISP folks, etc. The Internet Connect interface tells me the Airport is indeed connected to the internet, but none of the Macs seem to be able to connect with the Airport. Also, hardwiring the ethernet cable to the G5 works just fine.
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I too am having the same problems with the dual ethernet airport. This happened around 3/29 as well. I have called the cable co. for dsl modem advice, the tech says its a apple problem. the apple tech says all is hooked up ok. but when the air port is connected to the dsl modem all the lights are green except the internet. will not talk to the modem. I have done a hard reset and followed all the steps.
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Is there a way to turn the wireless capabilities off on an AirPort Express? I have an AirPort Extreme as my main router and use the express to just extend it. I only really want to you use the express for hard ethernet connections. For whatever reason when I have my express extend my wifi at home the download speed from just the express is absolutely terrible, drops to about 1.5 mb compared to when it's on the extremes part of the network the speed goes up to 50-75mb. These terrible download speed really only affects the iPhones as my MacBook Pro usually gets the good speed no matter where it is. I don't believe there is anything wrong with my phone because if I am in the part of the house that uses just the extreme the download speeds on the iphone goes up to 50-75mb. As a note I have an AirPort Extreme on the top floor of my house (second floor) that's where my modem is located. On the first floor that's where one airport express is located. I also have another airport express in the basement that is accessed by my landlord. Any thoughts on how to fix this would be helpful.

Is there a way to turn the wireless capabilities off on an AirPort Express? I have an AirPort Extreme as my main router and use the express to just extend it. I only really want to you use the express for hard ethernet connections.
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