POWER MAC G3 FireWire Issue--Where to go?

I can't believe there's no place in the Discussions for blue and white Power Macintosh G3s. If you can talk about a 400MHz G4, I don't see why we're left out.
My issue: has anyone ever succesfully used Target Disk Mode with a PowerMac G3? I have tried it between two of them--never worked once; between G3 and G4, no dice. PowerBooks--nothing. Supposedly you can do TDM from OS 9 to OS X but I can't get two identical machines to see each other. I have 16 of them and it works on none of them None seem to need the FireWire updates either.

Hi, Toolshed -
Firewire TDM is pretty much independent of the OS. However, it is dependent on the hardware of the machine being able to support it.
All Macs which have built-in firewire are capable of being the Host machine in FwTDM. However, not all such are capable of being the Target machine - specifically, the B&W G3 and the G4 (PCI) models do not support being the Target machine. Probably not a coincidence, both of those models are also not capable of booting to firewire.
Thomas Bryant provided the link to the applicable KBase article fpr FwTDM in his post above.

Similar Messages

Power Mac G5 FireWire Problems

None of my FireWire ports work on my Power Mac G5 Dual 2.7GHz. When I go into the System Profiler and select "FireWire" under the "Hardware" option I get the error message "Unable to list FireWire devices" ... Has anyone had this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi! Try resetting the pmu/smu as per THIS or THIS for an earlier model G5. Tom
Message was edited by: Thomas Bryant
Message was edited by: Thomas Bryant

Power Mac G4 Firewire stopped working

I've got a Power Mac G4 from a friend to replace my broken G3, have my drive installed, runing system 9 and is fine for few weeks but now the two firewire port is not working! I have installed a firewire card and is still not showing! had check the system profiler and the firewire port say no drive conected, PCI slot show card info but can't see any drive conected. Have done the vram and pmu reset but firewire still not responding. Otherwise everything is running normal including two USB port. Can anyone help please!!

Many, but not all G4s will boot OS9.2.2, & some require a special version of OS9.
If the G4 has FW/800 ports it won't boot OS9.
So we know more about it...
At the Apple Icon at top left>About this Mac, then click on More Info, then click on Hardware> and report this upto but not including the Serial#...
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: eMac
Model Identifier: PowerMac6,4
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.2)
Processor Speed: 1.42 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.9.2f1

Power Mac G5 boot issue

Hi all,
I'm having trouble's with my recently aquired Power Mac G5. It's the dual 2.7GHz liquid cooled model, 2GB DDR-400 (4x 512), 2x 160GB drives. It all originally started with a coolant leak which seems to be a pretty common occurance with these models, however I repaired this (which included replacing the power supply unit). The RAM, HDDs and PRAM battery are all brand new.
The unit will power up when you hit the power button (i.e, the fans rev up as normal, the hard drives spin up and you can hear the liquid cooling pump running) but the power LED doesn't stay on. It only illuminates when you actually press the button. There is no boot chime or anything displayed on the monitor. The fans eventually speed up to max speed and you can feel that the CPUs are generating heat. The unit will switch off if you hold down the power button for a few seconds.
The diagnostic LED next to the RAM only illuminates when you remove the air deflector (and HDD bay fan revs up accordingly) and there is no obvious visual damage to the unit. There is a red LED underneath the CPU & cooling unit however, but I haven't found any information about what this one is for.
Any information on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

Hi,
Just an update. I removed the front-panel board completely and started the machine by shorting the power button pins on the logic board. Unfortunately there was no difference to the start-up than mentioned originally so we can assume that the front-panel board is working OK.
While I was at it, I also tried a full PRAM/SMU reset by removing power and battery for 20 minutes, reinstalling the battery, pressing PRAM Reset, plugging back in and starting, but was also unsucessful
Jake

Mac Mini - Firewire Issue?

Dear All,
I have a 'late 2009' Mac Mini (2.53 GHz, 4GB RAM) and I think I may have an issue with the Firewire from the computer.
I have an iSight web cam plugged in to the Mac Mini's Firewire socket via a simple 400 to 800 adapter. Everything works as it should, but I've noticed that the iSight is receiving power all the time, whether the Mac Mini is on or off. Is this normal behaviour?
Can anyone confirm whether or not this model of Mac Mini is supposed to output power to Firewire devices all the time, whether on or off?
I want to know whether this is a feature or a fault before I report the issue to Apple. Also, will any harm come to my iSight by being powered up all the time?
It may be unrelated, but I've noticed that I get fan noise from the Mini all the time now. When the computer was new, it was silent under normal use. Could this indicate a more general problem with my mini?
Thanks for your help in anticipation.
Best Wishes,
Richard

Richard Mccarthy wrote:
Dear All,
Again, thanks for much for your replies; it is really appreciated.
You're welcome, Richard, and thanks for the feedback!
Thanks also for confirming that there's nothing wrong with my Mac - I was beginning to get worried!
If you ever have serious electrical concerns, I strongly recommend that you unplug your Mac until you can have it examined by an Apple Authorized Service Provider.
I'll give the vacuuming along the bottom of the computer a go; is there any risk from static or harming the Mac min that I should be aware of?...
There are instructions for how to clean each Mac in the users guide manual that came with every Mac I have ever owned. Check yours to be sure you are within the mini's instructions. If you still have problems or concerns about cleaning your mini, ask your AASP.
I have never owned a mini, but I regularly clean and vacuum my Macs. Here are my guidelines:
• keep the covers are properly in place,
• keep the Mac connected to a properly grounded electric outlet,
• do not insert the vacuum nozzle or dust brush into the Mac's vents or other openings.
These rules have kept my desktop Macs safe and working.
DaddyPaycheck has offered mini-specific suggestions.
If fan noise bothers you, also check placement: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22804
Message was edited by: EZ Jim
Mac Pro Quad Core (Early 2009) 2.93Ghz Mac OS X (10.6.4); MacBook Pro (13 inch, Mid 2009) 2.26GHz (10.6.4)
LED Cinema Display; G4 PowerBook 1.67GHz (10.4.11); iBookSE 366MHz (10.3.9); External iSight; iPod touch 4.1

Seagate 7200.9 500GB internal hard drive in Power Mac G4 Firewire 800?

Thank you for the very helpful discussions on adding storage.
I want to add storage to my Mac G4 'silver door' FW 800, running OSX 10.4.11. It has a (very full) 110 GB Toshiba as it's original drive, plus a clunky Maxtor 80 GB external USB drive I've used for backup.
Due to photos and videos, mostly from documenting garden projects and creating documents about them, my drives are filling fast. I want a long term solution - and don't feel like purchasing a new computer any time soon (We're a non-profit, who can afford it these days?)
My questions are:
I think I prefer using the internal option, since the G4 is set up to expand easily. Comments? An external 500 gb firewire drive isn't that much more expensive (~$40)
If I chose to add an internal drive, one reasonable choice seems to be a 500GB Seagate 7200.9 PATA (that's my interface, not SATA). The price is right. Will it work without problems with my G4 FW800? (The Seagate site and documents say it's Mac compatible, the box doesn't. Most online Mac vendors seem to carry the Seagate 7200.10.)
Do I need to worry about the SSC issues some Mac users have faced with Seagate drives, or does that only apply to SATA drives? Do I need to carefully read the serial number of the product, to avoid -301, which have SSC enabled and thus won't work with Apple controllers?
Will I need to buy a different cable? Or can I just plug it into the cable in the Mac (it seems set up to easily add another drive)?
Will I need to worry about BIOS limitations, or is there any other reason I might end up buying 500GB but only be able to use 137 GB? Or does the fact that my Mac already has an ultra ATA/100 solve that problem? Seagate talks about an ultra ATA/133 card - will I need to install that to avoid problems? How will that affect my existing Toshiba drive that will be bear some kind of 'master/slave' relationship to the new drive (it connects via ultra ATA/100 PATA).
If I have to get such a card, would it make more sense to simply get a SATA card? How will that affect cables and ease of installation?
If going above a certain GB size (~137 GB) will give my Mac major heartburn, should I stay under that limit for the internal drive?
Too many questions ! Sorry, moderator! But I've only got two more: I'd like to boot off my new drive, and make my existing drive the "slave". Is that relatively easy to do? Has anyone done that? Should I first hook things up as Apple and Seagate both suggest, with the original drive as Master, first?
Thanks! My questions probably show my blind spots and conceptual weaknesses - if it is clear I'm going down the wrong road, let me know.

Hi-
Welcome to Discussions!
In a summed up answer to all of your questions; Yes, the Seagate drive will be a wonderful, compatible, fully usable, plug and play in the second drive position, addition to the internals of your tower.
No size limitations, no BIOS worries, no need for a controller card, no new cables......
Install the drive and connect to the end connector of the ATA/100 IDE cable. Make sure both drives are jumpered to Cable Select (link applies to FW800 models). The drive on the end connector will be the boot drive by cable select default. Use Disk Utility to format the new drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled), and you're ready to use the drive as you see fit.
The easiest transfer of data, OS , applications, etc., will be to use a cloning utility such as SuperDuper! or CCC. Clone the old drive to the new drive, and you will have your previous system as is, only all on the new drive. Check the operation/integrity of all applications/data, and when satisfied, the old drive may be erased to be relegated to different use.

New Mac Pro, Firewire issues

I just purchased a Mac Pro and have only had it for a couple of days. I installed several internal drives and moved my data from my Windows machine to the Mac using a firewire drive. That went well, but the Mac could only read it as it was NTSF. I decided to format it as a mac drive (journaled) so I could use it to back up to. The Mac Pro will not format the drive. It fails the verify and repair. I hooked it up to my son-in-laws computer i-Mac and it formatted perfectly. I hook ti back to the mac pro and it is really buggy. Reads slowly and writes even slower. I again run the verify and it does not pass. Hook it again to my son-in-laws computer and it passes the verify. Is there an issue with my mac, or the operating system and firewire drives?

This is the only firewire drive that I have, but my mini DV camcorder works fine, but that is a different cord. When I plug in the drive to my son in laws imac with the same cord, it works fine.

Quicksilver Power Mac Spinning Wheel Issue

I have a Quicksilver P-Mac 867mhz tower that has 10.4.11 installed. 3 days ago it was running super slow and I had to relaunch the finder. It froze and when I rebooted the Mac it comes up to the Apple logo screen with the spinning wheel and that is it. Nothing else comes up even after sitting there for 20+ minutes. From the other posts, I thought maybe the batter was the issue, but I installed a new one today and that didn't fix it. I have reset the PRAM and have tried booting up in safe mode. No luck with either item. Could it be the power supply? This Mac has 2 internal harddrives, the original 60 gig and another 120 gig. I have had the system for 5+ years with no problems.
Any thoughts on this issue? I would think the hard drives should be good since I do not see the flashing ? icon come up during the boot process, but I also cannot insert a Tech Tool CD to reboot and try to repair either.
John

When I try to boot up the Mac, it gives the Apple logo and then the spinning wheel kicks in and just sits there. I can let it do this for 10+ minutes and nothing changes on the screen. So, my problem is that I cannot insert TTP CD into the optical drive because it will not open from the keyboard command.
This seems to be a big problem not being able to open the optical drive so that the Mac would boot off of TTP to try and fix the problem. Any other thoughts?
Thanks,
John

Power Mac G5- Display Issue

PowerMac G5 running OS 10.5.8 with 20" cinema display.
Changed the inverter board in monitor due to one long, two short flashes. No more flashing light.
BUT...
Screen resolution is funky. Have res to highest setting and MOST things look fine except that when I am on the desktop the icons and fonts are too large, gey bar on top of desktop (along with text) is too big. Checked the settings for desktop icon size, Universal access, etc. etc and everything seems to be in order.
HOWEVER...
I dove in last night and reinstalled the OS. During the reinstall the grey bar on top iof desktop (along with text) is fine and the windows that open are of the right size.
I am dumbfounded...any ideas?
JLG

Let's try to fix the other account.
Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions.
Move these files to the Desktop for now...
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.HIToolbox.<12digitHexNu mber>.plist
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.systempreferences.plist
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Preferences/ com.apple.systemuiserver.plist
/Users/<yourname>/Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.systemuiserver.xxx.plist
where 'xxx' is a 12 digit (hexadecimal) numeric string.
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.desktop.plist
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.recentitems.plist
Reboot & test.
PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.

HT2037 Power Mac log on issues

Recently, I restarted it and went to log on. Upon inputting the correct password, the log on initiated. About halfway through the lon in, it now abruptly stops and reverts back to the log on dialog box. How do I correct this?

Hi Paul Barrick1-
RAM does go bad. Each successive release of mac OXS10.x tends to make a Mac "pickier" about RAM.
Did you try installing the RAM skipping the first pair of slots?
The hardware test does little except check to make sure RAM is present. This program, run at 20 or 30 iterations, will root out any problems: Rember
Luck-
-DP

Netgear wg311t in Power Mac G4 MDD FW400

I'm trying to figure out a way to network my Power Mac G4 without running a long ethernet cable through the house. The cable modem and wireless router are downstairs in the living room (the only cable hookup in the house). The office with the Power Mac is upstairs. There's also my MacBook Pro (Early 2008), which I am currently networking to the Power Mac via firewire. The Power Mac gets its internet connection through the MBP. Of course, the MBP comes and goes, so I don't want to rely on it for a network connection for the Power Mac. Furthermore, I have a networked (ethernet) HP laserjet that I'd like to have on the network. Here is what I have:
A Netgear WG311T PCI wireless adapter that I used in a Windows machine a couple years ago. If I could get this to work in the Power Mac, I could connect the HP printer directly to the Power Mac and share the printer that way. This is an Atheros-based card, and no Mac OS drivers were ever released by Netgear. I've messed around with some kernel extensions trying to get the operating system to recognaize the card, but haven't had any success. The annoying thing is, I own the Orangeware driver that could work (I had a Netgear card in my PowerMac G4 that required it), but Orangeware doesn't exist anymore, so I can't register the serial number, so I can't use the driver for more than 10 minutes at a time.
A Netgear WPN824 v2 that was my wireless router before I got the WNDR3300 (I think that's the model). I tried to use this as a wireless access point, but you have to network it via ethernet to the other router, which doesn't help me at all. It won't work as a repeater - only v3 does that.
The Power Mac is the firewire 400 version, not firewire 800, so the fastest Airport card I can put in it is wireless-B. No way.
I have a USB 2 PCI card in the Power Mac, so I could buy a USB wireless-N adapter. I'd like to avoid buying anything else, though.
Any suggestions?

I don't know if this is the one, but only one I find...
http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_Update_10_4_5_Combo
Get Pacifist...
http://www.charlessoft.com/
then extract/install what you need from it.

I can't transfer my files from my Power Mac G5 to my Mac Pro using firewire connections. Has anyone else had this issue?

I can't transfer my files from my Power Mac G5 to my Mac Pro using firewire connections. Has anyone else had this issue?

Don't choose from another Computer, because with the older one in Target mode it really isn't a Computer, just a big Firewire Drive, choose From another Disk...

Power Mac G5 DP1.8GHz - Bad Logic Board or Power Management Issue?

I have a Power Mac G5 DP1.8GHz/1.5GB/80GB which I bought non-working. It has not yet been disassembled or examined by a certified tech. This is it's issue (which replicates): the computer powers on. It makes a single warning tone, then the LED flashed at least 15 times (too fast to count). Then the posting chord is heard. Hard drive spins up. Then nothing (no video). Won’t boot from any disk. I have changed the RAM and tested the RAM banks with known-to-be-good RAM from another DP1.8GHz G5. The warning tone stopped once or twice after this switch, but then it didn’t chime. I changed the PRAM battery, but not with as new one. However, after installing the used one and then resetting the PMU, it displayed video briefly for the first time. While installed in the other 1.8GHz G5, the hard drive was formatted, given a clean install of OS X 10.4.11, and then moved into this computer where is never mounts. The computer is not accessible through TDM.
Do I have a bad logic board? Bad CPUs? A power managment issue? A RAM issue?

Through my own trial and error troubleshooting, I have found the CPUs to be in good working order and the logic board passes the Apple Service Diagnostic every time. Despite the installation of numerous pairs of modules that worked in another DP1.8GHz, the computer has a RAM issue-it gives the "no good RAM" tone most of the time when it powers up (after a PMU reset it does not). Also the computer boots from disk or into Open Firmware but the disk utility can't see either hard drive so I may have a bad SATA controller.

HT1436 My Power Mac G5 will not fully boot without safe mode, it only comes to a blue screen where my cursor duplicates in to 2, (one is frozen, one can move by moving the mouse). What is my problem, and how do I fix it?

My Power Mac G5 will not fully boot without safe mode, it only comes to a blue screen where my cursor duplicates in to 2, (one is frozen, one can move by moving the mouse). What is my problem, and how do I fix it?

Great clue Lukas...
One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...
PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive
Reboot, test again.
If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or some USB or Firewire device, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.
Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.
Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...
/private/var/run/StartupItems
/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/LaunchDaemons

My Power Mac G5 doesn't see my Firewire connected devices..

Both my Firewire devices are not being recognized by my Power Mac G5. My captured material is on a Maxtor One Touch II Drive connected via FW 800 and my Sony Dsr 11 is connected via FW 400. Both stopped being recognized at the same time. If it was only one device I would guess it was FW cable causing the problem. Does anyone have any advice?

In addition to what Christina said...you could also try swapping the FW cables front/back. IIRC, our 'dead' G5 preferred certain FW devices to be connected to certain ports.
Also, when rebooting...go for the 'Guinness Solution'. Shut everything down, have a Guinness/beverage of choice/take a walk, (this allows the FW connection to 'reset'.
Then power on the deck first. Check System Profiler to confirm that the G5 'sees' that device, then FCP should see it as well.
Another option is to get an eSata or FW PCI card. Even though Macs have multiple FW ports, they're still running on the same buss. The PCI card provides another buss. If you go that route, research thoroughly to make sure you purchase the correct type for your model of G5.
Hope that helps,
K
EDIT...have you done any recent software updates? Your profile lists G5/FCP6/Leopard, which should be fine, but some QT updates can cause issues. Let us know exact version of QT you're running.
Message was edited by: Kevan D. Holdsworth

POWER MAC G3 FireWire Issue--Where to go?

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for