Power Mac G3 OS 8.6 Clean Upgrade to OS 9.0 - 9.2.2 help needed

Want to clean install OS 9 to replace OS 8.6 to use icloud. The OS 8.6 will connect to Internet but Netscape 4.5 or other browsers are unusable to download anything. Need to know if OS 9.0 or upwards to 9.2.2 are burned on a Windows machine to a DVD would it work or not? Otherwise, is there a source for actual CD or DVD available that is new? Not interested in an eBay purchase of a used or bootlegged copy. Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Hi, no iCloud in OS9!?
Might try Classilla...
http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/
Other Browser options...
http://lowendmac.com/thompson/05/1216.html
None will be exceptional fit for today's bloated internet though.
Some PC Apps can burn a Mac readable CD/DVD.
I'm pretty sure nobody is going to find a new OS9 Install Disc.

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It is a Gigabit Ethernet model.
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Repair the system with Disk Warrior.
Keep the boot drive free of data and media files.
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The G5s came stock with 256MB 6 yrs ago but even then it was sub-standard amount and 1.2 - 1.5GB RAM was much better for even basic light use.
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