Power Mac G5 PCI Ethernet Drops Internet or always loading.

Hi,
I have a very weird problem.
The ethernet card on my Power Mac stopped working and I bought a PCI Ethernet card to replace it. I also have the Airport Card installed and the wireless internet works perfect but it is not ideal to stream video to my PS3 or my Macbook.
The PCI card presents a very particular problem, when I connect using the PCI ethernet, I try opening Safari with apple.com as Home page and it never loads, it loads to the middle and stays there. If I try loading another page after like iPhone blog, sports or google, it loads fine and seems to be ok. If I try YouTube or Google video, it happens again and it freezes.
I have tried the following:
Open Firefox and since Firefox has Google as Home page, it loads just fine but after browsing 2 - 4 websites it sort of freezes.
Erase the network location and network setting for PCI ethernet.
Physically change the slot of the card on the Power Mac.
I got the PCI Card replaced by a new one and still same problem.
Change the cable, router port (I have a Time Capsule).
I would like to know if there's any way to identify this problem to the card or the computer or the network settings. It is very weird and I don't know if I buy a PCI wireless 802.11 n card will be different?
I did a speed test and gave me 9372 kbps download speed and 732 kbps uploard speed but as I write this topic the progress bar is stuck at the middle and is still like loading the page.
I would appreciate any suggestions and Help!!
Thank you.

I should have asked earlier, but did you do the basic trouble-shooting step of resetting the PRAM.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
Also if it might work without the drivers, did you try it previously with the driver not installed?
As a test, you can try creating a new admin user account in System Preferences Accounts pane. Log out and log in to the new account. Do you have the same problem in the new account? If you do not, the problem is somewhere in your current user account. If you do have the same issue, the problem is with your overall system or with hardware.
If the latter (the issue recurs in more than one user account), do you have a place, such as a second internal drive or external FireWire drive, where you can install a fresh Mac OS X system, and boot from it? If it works with a new installation, you have narrowed the problem down to your current overall system. You can focus your trouble-shooting there. Or you can do an +Archive and Install+ option re-install. This option will give you a fresh system while preserving your user data, but be sure to do a backup of at least your personal data in case something bad happens.
If you have the same problem with a fresh system installation, this product is somehow not compatible with your hardware.

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