Power Supply Selecton for K8N Neo4 Plat. Ultra

I am looking at 3 PSU's for this MotherBoard and following setup below.
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Ultra Socket 939
MSI NX6600GT PCIE Video Card
2- WD Raptors 36 GB
1- DVD/RW
1- CD/RW
2- Sticks Crucial Ballistic 1GB Matched Pair
1- Floppy Drive
2- 120mm Case Fans
2- 80mm Case Fans
Windows XP Pro SP2
Power supplies in question:
OCZ45012U 3.3v Rail=28a 5v Rail=45a 12v Rail=26a INPUT 10/6a
OCZ52012U 3.3v Rail=28a 5v Rail=45a 12v Rail=26a INPUT 12/6a
Rosewill RP550 3.3v Rail=30a 5v Rail=50a 12v Rail=35a
The only difference I can see in the 2 OCZ's, is the INPUT. The 450 OCZ is about a $30.00 cheaper than the 520 OCZ.
Can someone tell me what effect the INPUT amp would make??
Thanks for any and all advice.
Modified by workknot to complete the Post.
Regards; Pop's

Thanks to all that have responded to this topic. I did some more searching and was able to determine some more facts on both of the OCZ PSU's.
OCZ45012U 3.3v = 28a 5v = 45a 12v = 26a Peak Load 60 Sec. 550W INPUT 10/6a Price: $89.99
OCZ52012U 3.3v = 28a 5v = 52a 12v = 28a Peak Load 60 Sec. 620W INPUT 12/6a Price: $108.99
Now I can clearly see that the OCZ52012U is stronger on the +5V rail and the +12V rail. For less than $20.00 in the prices, I have for now decided to go with the OCZ52012U and it looks as though it will suit my needs just fine. The confusion to start with was some information on the NewEgg site that had some specs incorrect. I found the correct specs by looking directly at the power supply stickers on both units.
Regards; Pop's

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I have typical problem in my PC. I need reply only from experts. Newbies please excuse.
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VENDOR / DEVICE CLASS DESCRIPTION IRQ
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10DE 005E 0580 Memory Controller NA
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the memory controller is at chipset level on the motherboard that resides in the external northbridge on nf2 chipsets and lower .
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Code: [Select]
; nvmemctl.INF
; Copyright (c) 2001-2002, NVIDIA
; Version 1.00
[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=System
ClassGuid={4D36E97D-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
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[ControlFlags]
ExcludeFromSelect=*
[Manufacturer]
%NVIDIA_MFG%=NVIDIA_SYS
[SourceDisksFiles]
[NVIDIA_SYS]
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%PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AB.DeviceDesc% = NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AB
%PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AC.DeviceDesc% = NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AC
%PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AD.DeviceDesc% = NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01AD
%PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EA.DeviceDesc% = NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EA
%PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EA&REV_C1.DeviceDesc% = NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EA&REV_C1
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[NO_DRV.Services]
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[NO_DRV.HW]
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PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EB.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller"
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PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EC.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01ED.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EE.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01EF.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller"

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Quote from: roller on 27-March-06, 08:33:35
Helo , I am hoping someone can help me with this. I have read Fafner's thread on installing a sata hard drive on the neo4 mb but the only utility program I found on wd site is called " lifeguard11 for windows". Is this the right utility to use to partion my hard drive? I burned it to a cd and and my computer will post but will not boot from that cd. I have followed the instructions that came with the mb and used the floppys at F6 but it won't countinue to install windows after that.
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Quote from: gerasimatos on 30-September-05, 09:17:54
dont blame MSI for your financial situations. If you could afford the proper hardware then you wouldnt need to overclock and such. JMO.
I can afford the proper hardware. In fact, I bought a DFI Lanparty nF4 SLI DR to replace the defective K8N Neo4 SLI board.
As soon as the new K8N board comes back from RMA, I figure to sell it - say half off. I think for something that may or may not work as advertised, half price is fair.
And speaking of processors, these Venice chips are really phenomenal - they're just like (or maybe even better than) the good old XP1700 JIUHB chips. I still have one of those - and strangely enough, it's still running - in an MSI K7T Turbo 2 board (KT133A). That JIUHB served me well - it'd do a 500MHz overclock with no strain at all. If I had water cooling, I bet I coulda got 1 GHz out of it.
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That chip is gonna be one helluva overclocker!
I'll let it run at 2.5 GHz for another week or so till the AS5 has cured, then I'll see just how far I can go (without the temps getting too high). The way it's gone from this point, I think 2.7 GHz is very reasonable for a goal.
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The point I was making is that with my old, defective K8N, that would not have been possible - BECAUSE THE BOARD WAS DEFECTIVE. It was defective because the vcore did not operate up to spec (wouldn't go as high as it was advertised to) and because of the voltage fluctuations.
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