PowerBI vs SSAS/SSRS

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong forum for this question...
I have recently implemented PowerBI service to my organization.   The ability to first craft via 'self-service' and then migrate to a SharePoint/PowerBI site works great for our size company ($400-700M sales).
I am fairly new to the world of BI.   I see a great deal of my peer companies utilize SSAS/SSRS for MSFT BI needs.   I understand the ability to partition and secure data is far superior in SSAS; however, when I construct my models
for PowerBI, I constrain the data models to only contain data each end user group should be able to see.   I then control the SharePoint/PowerBI site via folder-level security, so no one can access data they don't own/contribute.   I do
understand they could download the file and see the underlying data model; but honestly, I'd be ecstatic if they did because one of the key features I see in BI is the ability for end users to see a high-level view and deep-dive immediately to root-cause.
Having said all that, the question I post here is: what advantages would I have migrating modeling to SSAS & SSRS as opposed to staying in a PowerPivot & PowerBI world?

Hi Jason,
Take a look
here, this compares the on-prem options, doesn't yet list Power BI (where you have extra features such as Q&A and mobile).
Please note that some of the gaps you are mentioning, such as row level security will be closed in the cloud offering so I wouldn't rush into local installation if this is the main issue.
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