Powerbook 1.5/1.67 GHz - any major or minor problems/defects ? need advice

hello
I am thinking about buying a used Powerbook 1.5/1.67 GHz
Either the 1.5 Ghz of this model: http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=pg4_family&performa=off&sort=da te&order=ASC
or this http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=pg4_15167&performa=off&sort=dat e&order=ASC
any known problems/issues with those machines ?
what kind of battery life can one expect from a battery in good condition and light use of cpu ?
are those powerbooks affected by the battery recalls ?

When buying used, be sure the seller follows these tips of mine
http://www.macmaps.com/selling.html
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The battery exchange is covered here and you can use this page as a guide to determine which model has it
https://support.apple.com/ibook_powerbook/batteryexchange/
These machines are known for the heat they generate, so don´t use them as laptops. Apple´s article here covers this with more detail
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n30612
A very few of these machines have been known to have fan problems, which is detectable with the hardware test volume which comes on the restore disks. Hopefully the machine you get is still under AppleCare (Under 1 year old or purchased) so that the test on this page if it finds the fans are defective can be passed on to AppleCare
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n86287
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Steffen Reichel wrote:
Hello Greg, hello Jim,
I was a week on autumn vacations, so I had plenty of time. I was trying to do.
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Hello Steffen.
I do not really see a question in your new info, but, based on the totality of both your posts, my two guesses are as follows:
(1) This disk drive is either faulty or connected improperly. Alternatively, it seems possible to me that it is an incompatible drive that has been installed in this Mac.
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If I did not have access to a working, compatible drive, I would ask an Apple Service Technician to fix the problem.
(2) If this drive is compatible with this PowerBook, and if it really "can boot another mac via firewire from the harddisk" after OS X has been installed, there must be something wrong with the PowerBook's connections or other hardware.
I would test this by installing the problem hard drive in a different PowerBook 17" 1GB 1,6 GHz G4, to see if it works there. If so, you know the problem is with the PB rather than the drive itself.
If the problem is with the PowerBook hardware, unless I could troubleshoot and repair the problem, I would ask an Apple Service Technician for an estimate of the cost to correct the problem before undertaking repairs. It is possible that this will be a costly fix.
(3) Please let us know what happens. We will watch for your status update.
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