Powerbook fault on start up

Hi
My PB is a few years old. It was fine until earlier, but when I start it up, everything works but the top right hand of the Finder bar (with the time, Airport Express indicator and power). All I get is the spinning beach ball there, and I can't connect to the Internet. Have shut down and restarted several times, but with the same problem.
Fingers crossed that someone cleverer than me can help!
Mark

Hi again, Mark.
Please try these classic tricks (again). Reset the P-Ram ( option-command-P-R before startup chime, wait till a 2nd startup chime to release), reset the Power Management Unit ( unplug PSU and battery, press power button for at least 10", reconnect PSU and if you want the battery and start up). You will have to reset the clock afterwards. If this doesn't work, report here again.
You can also try to start up from your install disc ( press C while starting up), see if you can run Disc Utility from that and attempt to repair your startup Hdd and repair permissions. Or startup in target mode, hook the PB onto another Mac and repair disc ( only then repairing disc permissions will not work, because it only does so on an internal disc).
It does look a bit like your system is corrupt so you may have to reinstall it, once you've made sure the machine starts all right from a CD.
Also, once I had a case of a PB running completely wild because of a faulty Airport card, so try and remove this if all else fails. Instructions on http//www. ifixit.com or something.
Good luck and keep us posted!

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