Powerbook G4 RAM Installation

Hi Everyone!
Major Problem! I just got my 512 GB RAM card today and I installed it and my 15 inch titanium powerbook g4 seems to be acknowledging it... However, after 5 minutes of having my comptuer on, i'm asked to restart it. Why is it doing this to me and how can i make it stop? If anyone could help, I would love it. Thank you.
~Brian

Return the RAM. It sounds faulty.
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