PowerBook Running HOT w/ Cinema 23"

My PowerBook G4 12" 1.33 fan kicks high almost immediately, and continues running high, once I plug in my 23" Cinema Display.
Temperature Monitor is reporting the following w/ values (values w/ no display in parens):
94.1 (91.4) F Battery
127.4 (114.8) F Processor Topside *
139.1 (127.8) F Graphics Processor Die *
118.8 (111.7) F Hard Disk Drive Bottomside
104.0 (104.0) F SMART Disk Hitachi
The Processors seem to be the primary source of the heat increase. I know there's more processing to drive the display. But is this much temperature increase to be expected?
I am keeping the laptop elevated, hoping that helps a little at least, but it's not having any impact. Fan is revved high the whole time, and annoying, but I'm concerned about a meltdown of sorts.
Can I increase VRAM or anything else to help mitigate the issue? I have 1GB as it is...is the processor just not up to the task?
Anyone else seeing this on PowerBooks?

Sounds good as I was a little worried. My Titanium G4 ran a bit hot but nothing like this. I keep the lid closed while in desktop mode and I happened to open it and noticed that where the armrest was it was quite warm and the very back was very warm. It concerned me.
However when I run this unit in portable mode you need to put a book or something under it as it is so hot.
I was just concerned this kind of heat might stress the battery and who knows even the laptops screen. But I guess Apple engineering would have considered this heat factor when designing the unit.
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