Powered or unpowered USB 2.0 Hub question.

Do I need a powered USB 2.0 Hub? All I can find in stores are powered USB Hubs or mini hubs for labtops with a very short cable. I need one for my G5, but don't want the extra cable (ac power)if I don't need it. Have enough cables cluttering up place. One store told me they don't stock the unpowered hubs any longer because people return them asking for the powered hubs.

Can you plug a Belkin unpowered hub into a Belkin powered hub? Would the second hub then draw power from the first?
Basically, can you daisy chain USB hubs?
We have a small office and we use 4 printers, a scanner and two backup firewire drives. We have an Airport extreme plugged into our main Mac, and the powered USB Belkin hub pluged into the Airport Extreme. Trouble is we're expanding and will need two more USB ports and one Firewire. So we're wondering if we got the Belkiin 6 port combo USB Firewire hub, (which is unpowered), would it draw power from the first Belkin powered hub?
TIA

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    After connecting a mouse, usb stick and an external hardrive to an unpowered USB 2.0 hub, I now get no response from any of those devices, though they had been working fine before. Other devices that I have since plugged into that same usb slot work just fine. What could possibly have happened??? I appreciate any insight!

    Nance,
    Welcome to the Discussions.
    You did not mention if each one of these devices still works when plugged directly into the USB 1.1 port. If they do, then I cannot explain the problem. If they do not, it is possible the USB 1.1 port was overloaded with all three devices connected to the unpowered USB 2.0 hub. You may have gotten such a warning on the screen.
    If you have not done so, I would disconnect all devices, shut down the powerbook, then reset the PRAM.
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
    Now test each device by connecting directly to the USB 1.1 port.
    If both the USB stick and USB HD (I am assuming that you have an unpowered 2.5" HD) were mounted on the computer's desktop when this 'possible' power shortfall occurred, it could have corrupted both devices so they will not longer mount properly. Connect each device to the USB 1.1 port, then see if Disk Utility can see the device and repair any damage. The mouse may no longer work if the preferences or other software was corrupted.
    If you are running an unpowered HD, I would recommend a powered USB 2.0 hub so you can connect other devices without worry.

  • Airport Extreme + unpowered USB hub + Lacie Porsche drive = FAIL

    This is more a warning than a support question: we've recently lost two (TWO!) Lacie Porsche USB2 drives by connecting them to our Airport Extreme (802.11n) via an unpowered USB hub.
    The drives themselves are now unusable (their little lights light up but there's no other signs of life).
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    its commonsense and risky. tx anyway for your experience.

  • Powered USB 2.0 hub random disconnects

    I have a powered Cables to Go 7 port hub plugged into my macbook. Mostly, only a usb keyboard and mouse, but on occasion hook up a card reader to it. No matter what is hooked up, all at a time, or one at a time, the connection randomly drops out. The port works fine when I plug directly up to it.
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    Get a different hub or call the vendor for support.
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  • Is there a USB 3.0 Hub that really works with the Mac Mini?

    My Mac Mini's four USB 3.0 ports work fine with my four USB Seagate GoFlex 3.0 hard drives. The drives mount at startup, and perform at expected USB 3.0 speeds. But, when I connect the drives to a USB 3.0 HUB to free up the Mac's USB ports for other devices, typically two of the USB Seagate drives will mount at startup, but two won't. There's a fix for this: after startup, I simply disconnect AC power from the drives that didn't mount, and reconnect the power a few seconds later. Now all my drives are mounted, they perform properly, and other USB devices connected to other Mac Mini USB ports (a mouse, a USB midi interface) work just fine as well. It's annoying, though, to have to perform this extra disconnect-reconnect step every time. I've tried two different USB 3.0 HUBs -- one from Uspeed and one from Satechi -- and I have exactly the same problem with both. Question: Is anybody else experiencing the same thing with a late 2012 Mac Mini and a USB 3.0 Hub? Has anybody found a 3.0 Hub that doesn't have this issue with the Mac Mini?

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    At long last we're seeing progress in getting 2012 Macs to work with USB 3.0 hubs. As discussed on this and other discussion groups I've had a horrible time with my MacBook Pro Retina  being unstable with USB 3.0 hubs. I know many of you have also or you wouldn't be reading this posting. 
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    In addition to the greatly improved reliability of this hub, I find several features of this Plugable to be a plus including:
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    The on/off switch on the hub allows the hub to be powered down when not in use.
    The full size Type-B connectors on the cable at the hub end engage solidly. Hubs with Micro-B connectors have presented intermittent connections in the cable connector.
    The aluminum case looks attractive with Macs, IMO, but not a reason to buy.
    Overall, Plugable's support is the best I've encountered. I've found their response to questions to be prompt and thorough. This, coupled with their online support articles has put them at the top of my list. They provide news and information that I've not found with other hub vendors.
    The article titled "Plugable USB 3.0 7 Port Hub Firmware History" at the below link gives insight into the history of the problems that we've been having with the USB 3.0 hubs on Macs and the firmware updates, regardless of the brand of hub you have.  Apparently, if you have the VIA VL 812 chipset, firmware version 85.81, you're in safe territory.
    http://plugable.com/2013/10/30/plugable-usb-3-0-hub-firmware-upgrades2
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    Unfortunately, the new Firmware version (908x) does not work with the model "68UNHUB-B7U" you have. The hub bellow has much less complaints about Mac issue. We suggest that you order this one.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009Z9M3DY
    AnkerDirect Customer Support
    Note that the above hub recommended by Anker has an 8th port just for charging iOS devices. Some will see this as a plus. However, the lack of such a port is not seen as a big problem. It's easy and relatively inexpensive to purchase extra 5V power adapters for charging, which is my preference. Plugging and unplugging devices on a hub that is powered "On" presents the potential for movement of the cables. This could interrupt a cable connection  and disconnect a drive during data transfer resulting in corrupted files. With 7 and 10 port hubs, and all the cables needed, this gets risky.
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    A statement from a support person dealing with USB 3.0 hubs tells what's I've long suspected: " -- the evidence is pointing to something specific to the Apple design (perhaps external to the chipset, like the signal re-driver….."
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  • USB 3.0 Hub for my iMac

    Good Day!
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    http://store.apple.com/us/product/HD988ZM/A/belkin-4-port-usb-30-powered-hub?fno de=58
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    Do I need to use the Power Supply for it to work on my iMac? (It seems to work without it.)
    Do I need to use the Power Supply for it to work on a MacBook? (Haven't tried it yet)
    Cheers for the New Year!
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  • USB 3.0 hub seen as USB 2.0

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  • Mac Mini and USB 2.0 hubs (hubs stop working within a month)

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  • Where do I get the AC to DC Power Adapter for a Linksys "Compact USB 4-Port Hub [USBHUB4C]

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    Hi, again,
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    When this Device was Designed, the requirement for External Power must have been known, or there would never have been a Power Connector built into the Device.  I've been in electronics for about 50 years, now, and I know that presently, it's a rarity that the Power Requirements aren't shown on the Device itself, with a Symbol depicting the Polarity of both the Inner, and Outer Conductors.  Even Toys have that information shown on them.
    I love these HUBs, but LinkSys/Cisco has really dropped the ball on this one.  I'm guessing that a lot of people have discovered, that if this 4-Port USB HUB doesn't have External Power, they quickly decided not purchase another one, when they need to "Daisy Chain" them together, for their Network of USB Devices.
    When you consider the loss of HUB Sales, coupled with a loss of income from a Power Supply they've never stocked, the numbers could be quite large.  That's not even considering the Support time I'm guessing would have been necessary when Customers determined they had a problem, and needed answers.  (It's not really a guess, since I talked to several Support People, without getting a satisfactory answer, before I finally came to this Forum, as a last resort.)
    I was actually shocked to find that LinkSys/Cisco, didn't sell an AC/DC Power Supply for the HUB, because Power Supplies like that are so commonly required, with the Electronics sold, today.  I'd be willing to wager that LinkSys/Cisco does, in fact, carry an AC/DC Power Supply that would be compatible with the "Compact USB 4-Port HUBs, Model Number USBHUB4C," they sell.  When something like this happens, I wonder how many other Opportunities like this, have been missed by the people who work for this company.
    We've all heard the expression about "Being too close to the Forest, to see the Trees."  This may be a good example of it's meaning.  At least I was able to find the answer to my Problem, thanks to the fact that the Query I made almost, 3 years ago, which had an answer, was still available to me, thanks to this Forum.
    Very Interesting!
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