Powering large displays (23 inch) at native resolution with a powerbook G4

Hi All,
I have searched the forum and although I am sure this must have been addressed, I am in need of a specific response. I have a powerbook G4 17 inch with the ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 graphics card that it came with. In order to run an external display such as the Cinema Display 23" at native resolution of the display will i need to purchase a new graphics card?
Secondly, if I have to purchase one, is it the type of repair that I could do myself?
Thanks for any help.
Nick
here are the stats for my graphics card:
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700:
Chipset Model: ATY,RV360M11
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
VRAM (Total): 64 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4e50
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-xxxxx-134
Displays:
Color LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1440 x 900
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Display:
Status: No display connected

The 23" will be at full resolution if used in extended desktop mode, but if mirrored, can only match the Power Book's display resolution.

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Blanking................ 672 pixels 45 lines
Total................... 2592 pixels 1245 lines
Scan Rate............... 74,556 kHz 59,885 Hz
Image Size.............. 550 mm 344 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines
Sync: Digital separate with
* Positive vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity
Descriptor #1 - Serial number:
1105601200545
Descriptor #2 - Monitor limits:
Horizontal frequency range.......29-81 kHz
Vertical frequency range.........55-76 Hz
Maximum bandwidth unspecified
Descriptor #3 - Monitor name:
PLE2607WSD
What do you think are the parameters I should use ?
Thanks in advance;
Paul

Powering large displays (23 inch) at native resolution with a powerbook G4

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