Powering on a closed MBP

Greetings, I have a late-'08 MBP (MB470LL/A) which I use with an external display, monitor, and keyboard. I use it in clamshell mode, so when I turn it on from being completely powered off I need to open the cover, press the power button, wait for login screen to appear on external display, then close the cover.
This is only a minor inconvenience at the moment but I am planning on getting a vertical stand in order to reclaim some desk space. With the unit in a vertical position it will be much more cumbersome to pull it out of the stand to open the cover, press power and then put it back, especially with all the wires coming out of it for the external devices.
What I'm wondering is if there is a way to turn on the MBP from a completely powered off state when its cover is closed, perhaps via one of the external peripherals. Possibly a key combination? If it makes a difference, the external keyboard I am using is the wired Apple aluminum.
I realize I could put it to sleep rather than power down completely, and then use one of the peripherals to wake it up, however this is unfortunately not a reliable option for me because the unit sometimes does not wake from sleep (regardless of whether in clamshell mode or not) due to an issue that I am still trying to pinpoint (will save that question for another post
Thanks in advance.

I wish I could power up my mbp the same way. Although I do usually leave it sleeping overnight, there are times when I need to shut it down or have taken it away from the desk. I wonder if there is a third party solution? However, I imagine that apple purposely made is so that you can't inadvertently startup your mbp without pressing the power button.

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Closing MBP Without Sleep With External Display

Greetings.
I have just hooked up a Dell 23" flatscreen display to my Macbook Pro. Everything works great... connected it via the DVI cable and it worked immediately.
I'd like to be able to turn on my MBP and use the large display exclusively, meaning I want to be able to close the MBP without it sleeping. I have put my Energy Saver preferences on "Never" for the display and computer itself, but those options do not work.
What is the protocol for closing the MBP after startup so that I may use my display without the whole thing going to sleep?
Oddly, I was able to "trick" the MBP into closing at one point; I shut the clamshell, it fell asleep along with the Dell 23", then I reopened it just slightly to where it would awake again. Then I used the display for a little while and shut the MBP clamshell again and the 23 still worked while the MBP was closed. Not sure how/why it worked, and I have not been able to duplicate it.
The split screen option is neat, as far as like the MBP being on the left and the 23" being on the right, but I don't need it, and my desk is too small anyway.
How can I achieve MBP sleep while it is still powering my big display?
Thanks,
C

Ha. Welp, best $8 I ever spent.
I SWWWEEEAAARRR I tried that earlier this afternoon; also I like totally swear I looked up and down the support site too. I knew it would be easy, just not that easy.
Thanks!
C

How to use multiple closed MBPs with KVM?

I have an unusual problem I'd eagerly welcome help with:
I have four MacBook Pros (from 2006-2010) that I use in my day-to-day work, since each of them can run an instance of the client software I work on.
As you imagine, this consumes a fair amount of desk space having them side-by-side, as well as the seeming redundancy of having each one's screen showing, since I actually only need to focus on one at a time (commanding it to do tasks I can background for awhile). In addition, I prefer to use the mouse over the trackpad whenever possible.
So I had an inspired idea: I read that you can run a MBP in closed clamshell mode while hooked to an external display. That got me thinking, hmmm, what if I stacked these MBPs in one pile and connected them all to a 4-port KVM, so I could share a monitor, keyboard, and mouse among them?
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Are there heat issues I need to be concerned about? The software I work with tends to ramp up a MBP's fans pretty loud.
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I'd say that you ought to look at using class and id attributes in your table elements.
If you have two tables and want seperate color schemes use an id on the <table> element. Then you can select that table in your CSS quite easily.
<table id="greenScheme">
<table id="blueScheme">
#greenScheme tr {
One set of rules here
#blueScheme tr {
Another set of rules here
I don't/haven't used tables that much myself so don't feel confident about writing out some sample CSS for you here. However, it shouldn't be too difficult to work out. Also, I did a fancy table not long ago to put up a price table in a site. A quick google on something like style tables CSS will bring up plenty of tutorial type stuff on styling tables that won't be too arduous.
Martin
Tricia0131 wrote:
searched this site and found this question many times, but all answers suggest how to do it in CSS code.
That might be because it's the best way to do it ;-)

Powering up after closing the screen

Ok so this is somewhat of a odd question I know but please hang in there. So I have a rental MPB and well it is generally crappy. I am having some issues with it that are so infuriating that there are times I just want to throw it out the window. So as I said it is a rental and I have been keeping it booted into Windows 7 via bootcamp because I have a better MBP and I like usign that in OSX. Additionally, there are a suite of programs that I need to run on a frequent basis, about 3-7 or more times a week and it is a pain to keep booting into windows and back on my other computer and additionally I am not a huge fan of keeping parallels running all the time and booting that up takes just about as long as an entire reboot. So now the rental MBP is what I think a 2009 model and it has an Intel Core2 Duo 2.26GHz and 2GB RAM and is running a 64-bit OS. I have the setting configured on the MBP in windows 7 enterprise to put the computer to sleep when I close the lid. Now my problem is I am having the hardest time waking the computer sometimes. I regularly cannot get the screen to come on or the computer to wake and am forces into hard shutdown and reboot. How can I avoid this? I need to be closing the lid often and opening it because I am very mobile with the labtop and need to transport it. I know it goes to sleep by the glowing light on the front, but when I open the screen it goes off and the screen just stays black. I cannot get it to show the login screen after sitting and just pressing and and all of the keys on the keyboard. Is there any way to aid in waking this computer, am I experiencing this problem because I am using bootcamp?
P.S. all of the apple software is up todate I have been checking reguraly.

You're probably experiencing the problem because of the defective GPU on the 15" mid-2010 models. While it's a repair that Apple will fix for nothing, since the computer doesn't belong to you I don't see that there's anything you can do about it - complain to the rental company about not having the problem 'fixed' I suppose.
Just for your edification - http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US.
Sorry that I can't give you any real 'tips' about how to solve your problem...
Clinton

USB powered harddrives on a MBP ok? (120 gig HD WB Passport)

I'm looking for a external hard drive. The local Costco has the WD 120 gig Passport for 110 Canadian Dollars. It is USB only with no provisions for external power supply. I did a quick google search to see what other had to say about this drive. Some have reported that the apple usb ports can not provide enough power (current? voltage?) to power this drive.
Can anyone confirm that drive does or does not work with a 15.4" MBP Core2Duo 2.33 Ghz?
Thanks,
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However, as a side note, you should be aware that while the device may work on the usb port on your right side as you face the mac, it may not function properly when plugged into the USB port on your left side. There have been some reports of the USB power/charge being stronger on the right side than the left side, as well as reports that the magnetic charge from the power adapter may interfere with the full current given through the left sided USB port. Though I can't confirm the latter, it has been mentioned in other threads by seasoned veteran apple users.

Using external HD Cinema display and USB keyboard/mouse with "closed" MBP

I have an early 2009 17-inch MacBook Pro and a ~2007 HD Cinema Display. I routinely hook up my cinema display and an external USB keyboard/mouse when I am at my desk, and I close the lid on the MacBook to just use the external display. When I leave the office (I do about 50% of my work away from my desk) I use the MacBook on its own, often just putting it to sleep while I connect or disconnect the monitor and keyboard.
My problem comes more often when I have used my computer on its own, and I try to plug it back into my cinema display. I have the computer set to ask for a password on coming out of sleep or screen saver, and every so often the computer just hangs when I wake it up--usually when I plug in the external keyboard. When I am able to login, sometimes I am not able to use any of the icons on my desktop--it's almost as if they are not there or recognized by the finder. My solution has been to go into the view options and choose to re-arrange the desktop in some way, and then I can select them again as normal. This is a frustrating solution as 1. it takes extra time, and 2. I loose my desktop arrangement, which makes it hard to easily find what I'm looking for.
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I'm not sure if this is germane, but Apple specifically warns about plugging or unplugging USB or FireWire devices from the laptops while they are sleeping. Doing so can result in kernel panics, crashes, inability to wake up the computer, etc. So specifically they recommend you only connect or disconnect such devices before putting the computer to sleep and after waking it up.

MBP 17" Won't sleep automatically by closing display

My MBP doesn't go to sleep when the lid closes-
I noticed it last night when I didn't plug it in and everything drained the battery even though I closed the lid. I have checked my energy savings and they all work fine-everything works as it should when it's open.
When I close the lid, though, it won't go to sleep!
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Mgkwho-
I realize you stated that you checked your energy settings, but I had this same trouble.
When I checked my "Energy Saver" settings, the 10.4.8 update had set my "Put my computer to sleep ..." setting to "Never". Once I set this to one hour (or other time other than "never"), I had no further trouble with my MBP waking or sleeping (including simply closing the lid).
I first noticed your symptoms when I had closed my lid only to return to a MBP that felt like it could catch fire due the heat being generated by a non-sleeping, but closed MBP.
If you Energy Saver setting is set for some period of time, it may help to reset the PMU (shut down, unplug, remove battery, then hold the power button down for at least five seconds, then reassemble and test).
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New MBP 2012 came with Mountain Lion, I would like to revert to Lion.

Hello!
I've recently bought a new MBP 15" ( not retina ) and it came with Mountain Lion.
As I use Pro Tools, and lots of third party plugins and I know that it isn't all very compatible yet, I've decided to install Lion instead.
So I connected my new macbook to my other one (early 2011 MBP 13" ) with firewire and wipe it all out, re-partitioned and used it to install Lion so far so good.
After everything is done and installed. I tried powering up the new MBP it will just show me a " Stop Sign " and switches off after a while.
I plugged them back together and booted my old mac ( 13 ) on the new one's hard drive. Everything worked perfectly so the install was succesful, and I even did the sofware updates. When I tried booting it again. No luck. STOP sign is back...
I'm afraid I believe that Apple has blocked something somewhere... Or is something not compatible?
but I really just hope I'm doing something wrong and that someone can just tell me what it is.

So I called APPLE today. And it's NEW to the last batch of computers but as I sadly suspected, the motherboard is simply not compatible with anything but Mountain Lion. And that's why it worked when running it from my 13".
It's never been an issue and they "warned" not to but it was never impossible nor a problem.
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Too bad...

Why does my MacBook Pro keep crashing?

MacBook Pro 5,3 (mid-2009)
Snow Leopard 10.6.8
3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 RAM
Bluetooth Off
WiFi on (50% of the time)
After sluggish performance (and now crashes) I've investigated w/Disk Utility app. I've been finding "Disk Needs Repair" more and more frequently lately. Was every month or so, then every week and now my Mac sometimes crashes multiple times in a day (whether it be a white screen or that black box that overlays the screen with the message to restart the machine). Often my MBP will not read the installation disc when inserted, but when I do get it to read, the Disk Repair is always successful (says Disk Utility).
I've:
-Repaired the disk from the installation DVD
-Repaired permissions from the installation DVD and just from the startup disk
-Reset PRAM/NVRAM
-Reset SMC control
...multiple times. Crashed keep coming back, sometimes immediately.
I used Yasu (cache cleaning software) for the first time a few days ago. Seemed to remedy all crashing issues...until yesterday. It crashed again with an external HDD attached (not that the ext HDD was at fault, I'm just trying to provide as much info as I remember). Not only is this very frustrating, inconvenient, etc. -- it's the machine I use for my job (performing as a DJ for over 15 years) and I just dread a crash mid-performance (was very weary tonight), since it crashed during sound check last week.
More info (for what it's worth):
-This HDD is less than a year old (Seagate Momentus XT 750GB 7200RPM)
-The RAM is upgraded, not factory installed (has been installed for over a year)
-Battery was replaced (supposedly OEM) about a year ago (under warranty for another 2 years)
I've copied/pasted the crash reports to notepad in hopes someone will be able to diagnose this issue with them.
Mediafire Link
Also,
-I opened Activity Monitor app last night, but found nothing odd.
-I opened Console app last night and saw many crash logs and they just continued to roll on out. Let me know if that info will help and I'll be happy to copy/past or save screen shots.
I've reformatted my machine long ago for a separate issue. I'd really like to find someone to decipher these crash reports to know if reformatting again is necessary. I'd rather not do it as a guess, but I understand my options could be limited.
Your time and efforts are appreciated. I love this machine when it behaves. I'd like to see it stick around a bit longer.

   OK, so - I used Memtest in verbose 64-bit single user mode to find my installed RAM OK installed individually, but bad installed as a pair. Interesting that was the case, but they will be mailed in to get them repaired/replaced. I installed my factory RAM and Memtest verified them OK after 4 runs. All has been fine, up until 10 minutes ago.
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I immediately went to Disk Utility to Verify Disk. "This disk needs to be repaired" it said, again. Before I left for the evening, I actually checked w/DU and it reported the disc as OK. Something is going on and I don't know what. I'll attach the Error Report below:
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 205882 sec Panics Since Last Report:          1 Anonymous UUID:                    646422C5-A1BC-4028-B5AA-7872407305D7 Wed Dec 25 01:01:51 2013 panic(cpu 1 caller 0x58c0ec97): NVRM[0/2:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000000: CFG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0xffffffff, BAR0 0xe4000000 0x59ab1000 0x00000000, D0, P-1/-1 Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 0x5832b798 : 0x21b837 (0x5dd7fc 0x5832b7cc 0x223ce1 0x0) 0x5832b7e8 : 0x58c0ec97 (0x58e2422c 0x58e94840 0x58e32f88 0x0) 0x5832b888 : 0x58d295db (0x7c40804 0x80a4004 0x0 0x2209aa) 0x5832b8d8 : 0x58d28561 (0x80a4004 0x0 0x0 0x0) 0x5832b938 : 0x58bc7129 (0x80a4004 0x58e80da0 0x0 0x0) 0x5832b988 : 0x58c1182c (0x0 0x5832b9ac 0x0 0x0) 0x5832b9f8 : 0x58c13762 (0x58e80da0 0x0 0x59ab1000 0x6aab1000) 0x5832bbb8 : 0x58bab8ae (0x0 0x85f8f8 0xffffffff 0x6aab1000) 0x5832bc08 : 0x58bac38b (0x7cf2c00 0x734e780 0x0 0x542bf2) 0x5832bc58 : 0x58bac4c5 (0x7cf2c00 0x7ce2f80 0x5832bc88 0x53b23e) 0x5832bc88 : 0x587359c8 (0x7cf2c00 0x5873d510 0x8c5bc20 0x72cfd70) 0x5832bd08 : 0x58734332 (0x7cf2c00 0x5 0x5 0x2141a2) 0x5832bd38 : 0x53e5df (0x7cf2c00 0x827d000 0x827d000 0x0) 0x5832bd88 : 0x56f222 (0x7cf2c00 0x827d000 0x827d000 0x0) 0x5832bde8 : 0x286c9e (0x7cf2c00 0x827d000 0x0 0x0) 0x5832be58 : 0x21dbe5 (0x7ee1a68 0x7ef2484 0x7ee1a6c 0x7ee1aa4) 0x5832be98 : 0x210a86 (0x7ee1a00 0x5832bedc 0x8239ae4 0x5832bed0) 0x5832bef8 : 0x216f84 (0x7ee1a00 0x0 0x0 0x0) 0x5832bf78 : 0x295c57 (0x856cd48 0x0 0x0 0x0) 0x5832bfc8 : 0x2a256d (0x856cd44 0x0 0x2a17ab 0x7a9c7a8)        Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):          com.apple.NVDAResman(6.3.6)@0x58ba8000->0x58e95fff             dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)@0x510aa000             dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2.1)@0x586db000             dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2.1)@0x58723000          com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2.1)@0x58723000->0x58744fff             dependency: 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Another Kernal Panic Tread

Hi everyone
I saw that there was a recent thread on kernel panics, and I have studied it and got about as much info as I could glean from the great links in the thread. Kernel panics are new to me, but I am not new to mac. Here's what's happening with my Mac Book Pro.
May 5 - in a meeting - online wirelessly using Firefox latest version, Thunderbird is open as well. - closed MBP - opened a little later and got the message that the macperson sitting next to me recognized as a KP. I restarted - loud beep and restarted ok. I put it out of my mind. Been working fine
May 19 - this morning - same scenario as above except this time I was plugged in for power - waking up from closed and sleep I got another Kernal Panic. I checked panic.log and saw it had happened on April 12 as well, but never before. While I cannot remember what happened on April 12, I do recall that last month I did have a crash when waking from sleep, but did not see an error message.
-I have no usb or firewire devises hooked up, but I am connected to my Epson printer wirelessly through printer sharing and my isight G5.
-I have checked all the crash logs and they are difficult to decipher, but I did not see anything that happened the same on all those days besides the crashes.
-I checked my installer logs and I have not installed anything accept Apple Updates anytime recently. -I verified my disk - all ok.
-I repaired permissions.
-I downloaded and ran Memtest - it says all is well with my memory (1gb, allthough it said it was testing 443mb). It is not new, but what came with the MBP.
Is there anyone who has heard of Kernel Panics happening during waking from sleep in particular? Can it be that just repairing permissions will have fixed it?
Thanks for reading through all this and let me know what info I can give to help. BTW - here is the report from the panic.log. All three are the same except for the dates:
Tue May 19 08:06:10 2009
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A49CB): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x1fa1b785, CR3: 0x00e2a000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x00000001, EBX: 0x1fa1b786, ECX: 0x004207e0, EDX: 0x0024d785
CR2: 0x1fa1b785, EBP: 0x141ebca8, ESI: 0x0024d786, EDI: 0x03f05f80
EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x003c1ba3, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00310010
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x141eba88 : 0x128d0d (0x3cc65c 0x141ebaac 0x131f95 0x0)
0x141ebac8 : 0x1a49cb (0x3d2a94 0x1 0xe 0x3d22b8)
0x141ebbd8 : 0x19b3a4 (0x141ebbf0 0x2bf32000 0x0 0x2c245000)
0x141ebca8 : 0x3c2c90 (0x2b6be00 0x3f05f80 0x3f10bc 0x162a88)
0x141ebce8 : 0x387b66 (0x3f01600 0x3f05f80 0x141ebd28 0x3c2528)
0x141ebd08 : 0x38b367 (0x2639c00 0x3f05f80 0x141ebd38 0x2639c00)
0x141ebd28 : 0x3b2954 (0x2639c00 0x3f05f80 0x141ebd58 0x3bf4ff)
0x141ebd78 : 0x18873c (0x2639c00 0x3d734b4 0x3d734c8 0x11cc32)
0x141ebdb8 : 0x12b4ee (0x2f6d8b4 0x3d73498 0x0 0x0)
0x141ebdf8 : 0x124b17 (0x2f6d800 0x0 0x18 0x141ebedc)
0x141ebf08 : 0x195f2e (0x141ebf44 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x141ebfc8 : 0x19b81e (0x2fbff40 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x2fbff40) No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xbfffed78
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386
If needed I can give the system log info from the time of the crash.
Thanks everyone.
sarahj

I see that those are numbers from the panic.log text above, but I do not know what it is that you want - system.log? That is a whole lot of text. From when to when? As I see it looking through the text, the activity was all background stuff. Here it is:
May 19 08:01:40 sarah-j-dolks-computer kernel[0]: System Wake
May 19 08:01:40 sarah-j-dolks-computer lookupd[2634]: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Tue May 19 08:01:40 2009
May 19 08:01:44 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: AppleTalk startup
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: hi mem tramps at 0xffe00000
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: PAE enabled
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: 64 bit mode enabled
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: vmpagebootstrap: 254294 free pages
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: migtable_maxdispl = 71
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Enabling XMM register save/restore and SSE/SSE2 opcodes
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: 90 prelinked modules
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: ACPI CA 20060421
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement: ready
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=0 LocalApicId=0 Enabled
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=1 LocalApicId=1 Enabled
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: using 5242 buffer headers and 4096 cluster IO buffer headers
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Enabling XMM register save/restore and SSE/SSE2 opcodes
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Started CPU 01
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: IOAPIC: Version 0x20 Vectors 64:87
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: ACPI: System State [S0 S3 S4 S5] (S3)
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Security auditing service present
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: BSM auditing present
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: disabled
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: CF0440AA-0202-4C65-AD25-0CE2D35E21ED
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: USB caused wake event (EHCI)
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) TI ID 8025 built-in now active, GUID 0019e3fffe2eb1a0; max speed s800.
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/SATA@1F,2/AppleAHCI/PRT2 @2/IOAHCIDevice@0/AppleAHCIDiskDriver/IOAHCIBlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDri ver/FUJITSU MHW2120BH Media/IOGUIDPartitionScheme/AppleHFS_Untitled1@2
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s2, major 14, minor 2
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: jnl: replay_journal: from: 13350400 to: 16304128 (joffset 0x37e000)
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::probe:
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::start before command
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::stop
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: IOBluetoothHCIController::start Idle Timer Stopped
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: HFS: Removed 22 orphaned unlinked files
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Jettisoning kernel linker.
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Resetting IOCatalogue.
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: display: family specific matching fails
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 0
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Previous Shutdown Cause: 3
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: display: family specific matching fails
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: ath_attach: devid 0x24
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: Override HT40 CTL Powers. EEPROM Version is 14.4, Device Type 5
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: mac 12.10 phy 8.1 radio 12.0
May 19 08:06:06 localhost kernel[0]: IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging disabled
May 19 08:06:06 localhost mDNSResponder-108.6 (Jul 19 2007 11: 41:28)[30]: starting
May 19 08:06:06 localhost memberd[37]: memberd starting up
May 19 08:06:06 localhost lookupd[42]: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Tue May 19 08:06:06 2009
May 19 08:06:06 localhost DirectoryService[44]: Launched version 2.1 (v353.6)
May 19 08:06:07 localhost kernel[0]: yukonosx: Ethernet address 00:17:f2:cb:d9:b5
May 19 08:06:07 localhost kextd[25]: kextdwatchvolumes: couldn't set up diskarb sessions
May 19 08:06:07 localhost kernel[0]: AirPort_Athr5424ab: Ethernet address 00:19:e3:04:00:15
May 19 08:06:07 localhost diskarbitrationd[36]: disk0s2 hfs F98E3E78-0444-3A30-9C24-B394356392FD mac•to•go /
May 19 08:06:07 localhost kernel[0]: Registering For 802.11 Events
May 19 08:06:07 localhost kernel[0]: [HCIController][setupHardware] AFH Is Supported
May 19 08:06:07 localhost configd[34]: AppleTalk startup
May 19 08:06:07 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: setting hostname to "sarah-j-dolks-computer.local"
May 19 08:06:07 sarah-j-dolks-computer lookupd[62]: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Tue May 19 08:06:07 2009
May 19 08:06:09 sarah-j-dolks-computer /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
May 19 08:06:10 sarah-j-dolks-computer loginwindow[65]: Login Window Started Security Agent
May 19 08:06:10 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-net work
May 19 08:06:10 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
May 19 08:06:10 sarah-j-dolks-computer lookupd[75]: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Tue May 19 08:06:10 2009
May 19 08:06:11 sarah-j-dolks-computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/airport: Currently connected to network anido
May 19 08:06:13 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: target=enable-network: disabled
May 19 08:06:14 sarah-j-dolks-computer mDNSResponder: Adding browse domain local.
May 19 08:06:15 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: AppleTalk startup complete
May 19 08:06:15 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: AppleTalk shutdown
May 19 08:06:15 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: AppleTalk shutdown complete
May 19 08:06:15 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: AppleTalk startup
May 19 08:06:20 sarah-j-dolks-computer configd[34]: AppleTalk startup complete
May 19 08:08:04 sarah-j-dolks-computer /System/Library/CoreServices/Crash Reporter.app/Contents/MacOS/Crash Reporter: could not convert inteface name

Leaving Macbook Pro on all the time (as a desktop)

Hey guys, I have a 2010 Macbook Pro 17" and I'm thinking about transitioning it to a more sedentary lifestyle and turning it into my desktop. I currently use a PC as my home desktop, but it's old, slowing down, and uses Windows.
I have a few questions as I consider this move.
1) Will I need to keep the screen open on the laptop all the time? I think that MBPs dissipate their heat through the front/keyboard, so if I do find a workaround to keep it closed all the time, will my laptop overheat?
2) If I leave my MBP on all the time and plugged into an outlet constantly, will that drain my battery? I like keeping my main desktop on all the time as I do a lot of downloading, use it as a media server, and also like to access my desktop remotely. For the rare instance I want to unplug the MBP from the desktop setup, will I have any battery left to use?
The reason why I ask is because I'm thinking about two main options. The new iMacs are rumored to be coming out by the end of this month and I might just get that to replace my PC. However, I am thinking about holding off for the next generation of Macbook Airs (whenever that is) and just purchasing that, while turning my current MBP into a functional desktop. What is the downside of the using a MBP as a desktop instead of an iMac?
Please let me know what you guys think and recommend, and if anyone else uses this setup, please let me know how it is! Thanks!

1. Yes, it's possible to close the lid and keep the computer going - there are several threads on this if you search.
Although the MBP vents out the back when the lid is closed, heat does dissipate through through the top (meaning around the keyboard/speakers/trackpad/etc) also. Feel with your the top of your hands the aluminum when you computer is working hard and you will feel the heat - closing the lid will limit this heat escaping to a degree. So while it's likely fine to run the MBP with the lid closed, if it were me I would raise the lid up a few inches when the computer is using high CPU or the fans are working hard. (By the way, if you've been to an apple store, you will see that their laptops are fitted with little plastic bumpers so that when the lid is closed it doesn't close all the way - it could be to prevent sleeping, but instead of modding all their computers they could have just turned off sleep on lid close.)
2. As previously stated, it is good to power cycle your battery every month or so to keep it healthy. This is the nature of Li-ion batteries. Just unplug it and let it "die" once and a while. Leaving it plugged in most of the time won't destroy your battery.
Regarding iMac : It may have a better screen than whatever you currently have - they are stunning. Additionally, the current iMacs are more powerful than your 2010 MBP. But if you do decide to go that direction, I would agree that it may be best to wait till the iMacs come out with the improved Sandy Bridge i7's. If you don't need much horsepower, any of the 3 options will work - why not try out your 2010 MBP as your desktop for a bit and see how you like it, in the meantime you can see when the iMac comes out and compare that to your MBP desktop replacement/new MB Air idea.

Using Laptop Screen Protectors like OWC brand

Does anyone use OWC's Laptop Screen Protector? I recieved mine today and put it inside my macbook pro but it seems like it shouldn't even be there because the laptop is rather hard to close, almost have to give it a good little push for the case to lock when the LSP is in there.
Anyways, I'm using it to keep my macbook mint while its running in clamshell mode. Also, i think my macbook pro is running hotter with the LSP inside the notebook but it could be my imagination. Is there a problem with the LSP sitting inside while its running? Should a LSP only be used when the computer is alseep/powered off and closed?
If anyone can comment from experience that'd be awesome!
2.16 C2D MBP 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I would only use it during transport. Mac are notorious for screen damage from vibrations while traveling as are many others laptops.
If it is closed while running you are already insulating it if I recall OWC is not a breathable fabric and these units are running too hot as it is.
If you absolutely must have something there while the unit is on your desk I would find something that allows for airflow in/out of the keypad. But I never travel without it. I just use the one that is shipped w/the unit.
FWIW
W1

MacBook Pro is shutting off my home wireless network

I've been reading through some of the other MBP wi-fi issues but couldn't find anyone discussing what I'm dealing with so I wanted to put this out there.
I got a MBP earlier this week and, it seems like after powering down or shutting the MBP and reopening it, my wi-fi network at home shuts down or isn't recognized. When this happens, I have to unplug my airport extreme and turn the internet on and off on my cable router so the wi-fi signal can be recognized on my wireless devices. It's not just the MBP (running Lion 10.7.3) that can't find the wi-fi when this happens; my MacBook (running OSX 10.5.8), my TV with wi-fi and my wife's iPhone lose their signals also. The airport extreme and my cable router still are showing that they're running when this happens (green light on airport).
It only seems to happen when the MBP has been powered down or closed. Not sure if it has something to do with the airport extreme router that's in the MBP. It doesn't seem that anything is actually turning off the airport extreme but none of the devices can recognize the wi-fi signal after this happens. Turning off and on the airport from either of the computers doesn't seem to do anything. It requires a reboot to the airport.
Any thoughts on this?

linc davis - the MBP does connect to the wi-fi network. I haven't had any issues yest with MBP automatically disconnecting from the wi-fi (as i've read other people have had).
I've really only noticed it as an issue when the MBP was shut down or closed. in those times, it seems that the wi-fi network is being shut off for everything in my house (not just the MBP). for example, i left my MBP on while i was out of the house. it went to sleep but i didn't shut it so everything was fine when i woke it up to get online just now.

Why doesn't my built in display re-initialize after resuming from sleep mode?

Hi,
I have a MacBook Pro (2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM) which I purchased a few years ago. I always have a secondary display monitor plugged in.
When I bought this system, it came with Snow Leopard and I recently upgraded to Lion. That's when this issue began:
If I physically fold the screen down and put the MacBook to sleep mode that way, often times when I resume my secondary display will return but my primary built in display will not - it just remains black. In some cases this creates a serious problem because my menu bar / dock are still on the main display and so I have no dock.
I notice the problem has not occurred if I put the unit to sleep using the Sleep command... but sometimes I forget.
I am wondering if anyone else is having this type of issue, and if there is a way to solve the issue? Is it possible this is a bug?
Thanks,
Steve

etresoft wrote:
It is definitely not a Leopard bug because it has been happening on every portable Mac I've ever had.
I don't agree. I had no problems at all with my MacBook Pro running Tiger. I initially did an upgrade from Tiger to Leopard and when the problems started I assumed it was a problem with the upgrade. I then completely erased and did a clean install of Leopard. The problem has actually gotten worse since I did the clean re-install.
etresoft wrote:
Just close the screen, wait for it to go back to sleep, then open it again. It will probably be fine.
As I mentioned in my opening post, I've gone through that song and dance more times than I can count. I've closed it, waited for as much as an hour, opened it back up...same problem. I've hard powered it down, closed it, disconnected the AC adapter, removed the battery, opened it, held down the power button for 15 seconds, re-installed the battery, reconnected the AC adapter, pushed the power button, and the display will still be dark. It's sometimes taken as many as 5 or 6 iterations of that process before it will finally reset whatever problem it was having and boot normally with a functioning display.

Please help me decide on a Mac mini server or MacBook Pro i7 for Logic

Hi folks,
I've really taxed my brain trying to figure out what's the smartest way to go. I'd love to know what any of you think I should do.
My current setup:
2007 MacBook Pro 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo
2GB Ram
FSB 667 MHz
M-Audio ProFire 610
WD-Passport external drive for samples and audio files
Logic 8 (looking to upgrade to 9)
Record 1.5
Various AU plugins including Omnisphere, Miroslav Philharmonic, Amplitude 2, FM-8, BFD 2 and Korg Legacy Analogue
Final Cut Studio (latest version) for modest HD editing but sometimes multiclips as well
I tend to use lots of tracks - around 10 vocals, 4 guitars and lots of software instruments.
As you can imagine, Omnisphere runs like a dog past 2 instances and BFD practically makes everything grind to a halt.
Since going to Record 1.5, rewiring also seems to be unusably slow.
I'd love a new iMac or Mac Pro but I make several plane journeys to visit my Mum in another country. My solution has to be mobile, although I have got monitors, a keyboard and mouse that I can use at my Mum's.
As far as I can see, there are 2 options:
1
A new MacBook Pro 2.66 Ghz i7
2
A Mac Mini Server 2.66 Ghz Core 2 Duo
Physically, the Mac Mini is the better option:
- much lighter in my hand luggage so I could take it in addition to my existing MacBook Pro.
- more USB ports
My worries with getting a Mac Mini are:
- Is it powerful enough or at least significantly better than my MacBook Pro?
- Will it run the latest version of Final Cut Studio (a little off-topic, I know but I couldn't seem to find any straight answers elsewhere).
- Is it noisy when under a heavy workload?
- There is no Superdrive so can I use my MacBook Pro to install the software DVDs across a network?
Thanks for reading this. Let me know what you think.
Kind regards,
Steve

The mini will be about as powerful as your current MBP. You could have more RAM in the mini, 2 GB is certainly not enough for any serious work.
People on this list were initially(LP 9.0.0) underwhelmed by the MBP i7 dual core, it is a step up from your older MBP, but don't expect miracles. Get lots of RAM/a SSD for optimum performance.
9.1.3 may have improved performance, not sure,
Fast and relatively cheap: iMac i7 quad core. Not very portable, though.
Not ideal either is your M-audio interface, its drivers are below par making your Mac sweat more than necessary.
My 2c,
Zip

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