Powermac 6100/66 Monitor Woes

I need some serious help. Ok I got the HDI-45 to the standard apple 15 Pin connector then i got a dip switch Apple to VGA adapter. Well the vertical sync is fine at 60.0 HZ,but the horizontal sync is out of range of my monitor. My monitor supports from 31.7 KHZ to 70.0 KHZ Horizontal sync,but when i plug in all the adapters its out of range and says 24.5 KHZ /60.0 HZ . Ive tried all the switches on my dip switch adapter and all they do is change the vertical sync. Can anyone tell me a really good adapter i can use to see my old Macintosh on a VGA Monitor? Thanks

Is that the way it starts up, or is that the way it ends up after the Interlocking faces are drawn and the parade of Icons starts?
The way it starts up should depend on the value read from the adapter. The way it ends up when the system is in and running depends on the Monitor Preferences file, which could be set to an old value.
There are several ways to intervene to try to get different answers.
Reset The PRAM. This removes pre-conceived notions saved in Parameter RAM.
Boot from a CD. This avoids reading the (possibly wrong) setting in your Monitors Preference file on the Hard Drive. If the screen clears, it may give you the opportunity to find the Preference file (in the Preferences folder inside the Hard Drive's System Folder) and move it to another location, de-activating it. A new one will be created when you go back to the Hard drive System and use Monitors or Monitors and Sound to set the resolution anew.
One more thing to try--those tiny switches are not rugged. Sometimes they do not throw completely on the first try. Try turning them off again and moving them briskly into the ON position once again.

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Hey all
So we lost power this weekend and I had to haul my editing rig (a 1,1 Mac Pro, ATI 5770... yeah, it's a little long in the tooth but dang thing keeps on working!) out to a friends house so I could keep working. I figured it would be easier to just buy a new monitor (and I've been planning on doing that for awhile) than disassemble my old monitors and haul them.
So I found this guy on sale at Best Buy: Samsung - C750 Series 27" LED HD Monitor (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung---C750-Series-27%26%2334%3B-LED-HD-Monitor/8 585136.p?id=1218879338068&skuId=8585136)
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3000:1 contrast ratio
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And I plugged it into my ATI Radeon HD 5770 using a DVI to HDMI cable and I mean, the thing is just stunning to behold. Bright and beautiful.
So here's why I'm here posting: It's at it's highest setting (full 1080) and I'm noticing that while most stuff looks really great text is not very smooth. I've exhaustively gone through the settings to see if I'm missing something but now that I'm back on my Macbook Pro here at work I can really see the difference (and it's not a Retina screen). I can take some screen shot comparisons when I get home. Granted this is how it was on my older monitors but I figured it was because they were several years old and had a lower resolution. Is it a graphics card thing? Can the ATI not render text as well as the NVIDIA in my 2009 MacBook Pro? I'm running Lion FWIW.
So am I missing something here? Anyone have any ideas? I have 15 days to take this thing back and while I could live with the less than perfect text I figure if I'm going to plunk down several hundred bucks for this I should make sure this is the best I can do. Anyone with ideas or thoughts, I'd love to hear them. Thanks!

27" and you need dual link on DVI side or the MDP but realize that a true 27" is much higher resolution than your LCD HDMT "Monitor" Display was.I find the 23-24" inch is fine on HP but larger and I have to move my head and look around just that much more.
Apple Mini DisplayPort adapters: Frequently asked questions (FAQ)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3382
Guide to Apple graphic display adapters needed
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3235
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3235
Atlona (Dual Link) DVI to Mini DisplayPort Converter for Apple 27-inch LED and 27-inch iMac
http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-Dual-Link-DVI-to-Mini-DisplayPort-Converter-USB-Pow ered.html
http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-Dual-Link-DVI-to-Mini-DisplayPort-Converter-USB-Pow ered.html
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Split Monitor Woes

Hello all.
I've got a slight problem here.
I recently picked up a Wacom 20WSX Cintiq for my Mac Pro setup (which already has a 23" Cinema). Originally the Cintiq was to pair up with the Cinema, right beside each other, but this doesn't work as the Cintiq requires a large amount of space when being adjusted in rotation and tilt.
So I split the Cintiq off into it's own "workstation", apart from the Cinema with it's own bluetooth keyboard. Everything is fine and working.
Except for the fundamental fact that the OS X menu bar is still on the primary Cinema display.
Anything like Illustrator or Photoshop is pretty much rendered useless because of this. Sure, I can move the windows over to the Cintiq, but anything menu related requires me moving over to the Cinema, grabbing the mouse, and doing whatever it is I need to do.
I'm aware of the fact that I can move the Menu & Dock to the Cintiq, but this is a lame solution for a stupid problem, and it messes up the rest of my desktop(s).
Is there any way to truly run the monitors as a "split" setup? Ie, both monitors have a menu bar (the dock can stay on my Cinema though- don't need it on the Wacom), and each menu bar shows the contents of the foreground application for each monitor?
Seems to me like Apple's multi-monitor setup is pretty weak if this is indeed the situation and there is no apparent solution (at least XP has Ultramon).
-SC

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External Monitor Woes

I'm sure I had seen this issue posted earlier, but I can't seem to find it now.
On my upgrade to Leopard a few weeks back, everything went fine with the exception of my Boot Camp upgrade.
My external monitor is not recognized after the upgrade under Windows. (It worked like a champ under the Boot Camp beta version.)
I'm running an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600. When I first upgraded, I was on Windows XP. After hours on the phone with Apple customer support, we got the external working, but only with a sideways orientation. Apple CS was to further research, but I had no further contact from them. (We could find no option in the ATI control panel to change the orientation.)
In the meantime, I reloaded and updated drivers with no avail. I also upgraded to Vista Ultimate. And now, I can't even get the monitor to view at all. (Again, I reloaded updated drivers ... with nothing.)
I took my machine to the Genius Bar at my local Apple store with no luck. We could get an Apple monitor to work under Vista, but all non-Apple monitors that they tried could not get a signal. (BTW, the monitor works just fine in the Leopard environment.)
I've tried everything I can possibly think of given my pedestrian-level knowledge of my machine. Since I absolutely need my exernal monitor since I am an editor, I am at my wits end and the only option I can think of is to go out and buy an Apple monitor.
Anyone seen this problem or heard a solution?

Is this problem with Leopard or Vista?
If it's Vista I suggest the BootCamp forum where there are many more running Vista.
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=237

Powermac 6100 Dead Mouse

I have a 6100 and the adb mouse has stopped moving the cursor. The keyboard still works and I can open files etc. I have tried several mice, and several keyboards. I am fairly sure it is not an extensions problem as I have booted up from 2 different hard drives. Ok, here is what may have happened, (prepare to insert slow shaking of head here), it might have gotten wet due to a leaky humidifier on the furnace prior to the onset of problems. Is there a fuse or something that could short out on the adb bus? Why would the keyboard function but not the mouse?
Any thoughts? I still use the 6100 for the kids and as a printer server for using my old serial laserprinter with a G4 Imac.
Thanks, Colin

MC,
I think Grant may be right about buying another mouse but if that does not work, you will have a true mystery on your hands.
You ask "what kind of idiot lets his computer get wet?"
I will tell you. A graduate student brought her laptop into the store and said that two years of her phd thesis was on her laptop hard drive and it would not work. The tech opened the laptop and water ran out. The HDD would not work in a repair sled so he opened the hard drive and water ran out. He started up the drive again and recovered the data. He also made a backup copy.
The store is long gone but the memories live on. What happened? She would take her laptop out to the car, leave it in the freezing cold, haul it into a warm house, back to the car, into school, around campus and home again. It had filled up with condensation. I think she learned her lesson about backing up files.
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http://benanderson.homeip.net/uploads/phpG9ptPf.jpg
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Hello,
My Power Mac 6100/60 AV refuses to run 7.6.1. I installed a brand new system from a CD and everything went fine during the installation, but as soon as I restarted I got this white window and the system frozen with no mouse pointer:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5417175/6100-freeze.jpg
Shift-booting works, so I thought it's an extension problem. I disabled everything in the Extensions Manager - still not working. System 7.1.2, 7.5.5 and 8.1 worked fine on that computer. Why 7.6 and 7.6.1 don't work?

Problem solved!
Here's what I did. I booted from an Apple Software Restore CD (the one that has all Mac OS versions prior to 9) and initialized the hard drive (again) using Drive Setup 1.7.3. This time I only made a single partition. Then I updated the disk driver. This is something I don't remember doing before, at least not using Drive Setup 1.7.3. And finally I installed 7.6 and 7.6.1 from that Apple Software Restore CD.
I tried installing from that CD before and it failed, so I can only assume updating the disk driver using Drive Setup 1.7.3 did the trick. The idea came to me after reading this tech note:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1249?viewlocale=en_US
Mac OS 7.6 discs have an earlier version of Drive Setup (1.2.2) so it's possible 1.7.3 did something different to the disk.
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Aleki,
Start up the computers and see if they work. The 6100 will probably have a dead battery and need a little extra trick to get the monitor to start up. Push the power button in. After ten seconds, push the power button off then on quickly. This will wake up the monitor.
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I have an LG L226WT and a 20" Apple Cinema Display connected to a brand new Mac Pro.
Both monitors (in the same configuration) were running on my old PowerMac G5 before.
The Cinema Display works fine, colours are good, so is light etc.
The LG first had ghosting (severe at that) and this morning the colours are totally out of whack. Looking at some photos I had taken a week ago and colour corrected on the G5 now look like a child painted them (on the LG monitor, on the Cinemadisplay they are fine).
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I don't think it is the DVI cable, as it is securely screwed in and in the same location as on the PowerMac, turning the monitor off / on seems to resolve the shadow problem but not the colour issue.
Anybody have experienced this? Any tips outside of trashing the LG and buying a new screen?

The ghosting issue is still one when I first turn the computer on. I found that I have to turn the monitor off and on and it resolves the issue.
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Can I Upgrade a Mac PC.

I have a Mac running off of OS 8.6, and I know it is an old computer. Is there a way I can upgrade to a newer and better edition?
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At this point and time... to take good money and throw it way in upgrading a machine depends on several things.
1. Are you wanting to challenge yourself and learn about computers?
2. To what extent are you wanting to upgrade?
3. What are your expectations from your efforts and upgrades?
4. What specifically are you wanting to upgrade? — because if you're coming from 8.6, there is a TON of upgrading (assuming your machine is old and bone-stock).
5. Are you up for the challenge?
Yes, you can. You "could" upgrade everything from your ROM DIMM, to your processor... and EVERYTHING in between, at a great expense with noticable improvements rock-solid performance.
The PowerMac Beige G3 was build and designed to be upgraded — period.
I have (2) Beige G3s, one of which is fully upgraded and rock solid. The second is a back up and a spare parts machine. It runs great, but I use the "built" one. It is super nice to have a reference machine.
I have (2) G4s, both Dual Processors. One is my "dream machine" (Quicksilver) and the other, a back up that sits on the closet floor.
I have (3) other PowerMacs 6100/66, 8500/120, and an iMac G3/400 — all unplugged.
Suggestion:
Add up the costs of the upgrades wanted, and weigh them against the cost of simply buying a newer machine.
I've learned soooo much from upgrading, mostly all archaic.
Do as you wish and enjoy.
1. Upgrade your ROM DIMM up to Rev. 3
2. Upgrade/replace your VRM (Voltage Regulator Module) if made by "Royal Tech"
3. PC100 CL2 SDRAM RAM modules: 768MB total
4. Overclock your logicboard from 66.83MHz up to 83.32
5. Upgrade and/or overclock your ZIF processor
6. Upgrade your PCI Graphics Card
7. Upgrade to a USB/FireWire Card
8. Upgrade your OS to 9.2.2
9. Upgrade your CD to a DVD-R/W
10. Upgrade your Hard Drive(s)
11. Upgrade with some speakers
12. Upgrade your monitor
Or, buy a newer computer at a great low price (used) that would simply outperform the Beige G3.
Note:
You have to know that the Logicboard bus speed of the G3 can be no faster than 83.32MHz, the PCI bus speed at 33.33MHz, and the maximum (overclocked) processor speed of 666MHz @ 8x (J16=P3, P4)
*The B&W G3 bus speed was 100MHz
*The G4 bus speed(s) were 100MHz, 133MHz, 167MHz
(*) Maximum clocking multiple of 10x
It's all in the math and how you calculate it. It's fun. It's educational. It's computer experience. It's time consuming. It's expensive. It's a computer. But it is after all... a Mac!
Good luck.
"Happy Mac-ing!" — Jon Lamont

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Hi folks, long time reader, first time poster (sorry, couldn't resist):
I just got a nice shiny new core solo mac mini 1.5 with stock ram and it feels like it runs slower than my 450 mhz dual processor powermac. Activity monitor shows that if I try to run microsoft word and entourage at the same time I run out of free ram - is this normal? I'm thinking of upgrading the ram, but don't want to void the warranty if it turns out to be a hardware problem. Any ways that I could check it out?
Thanks
Mike

Yes.
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HI,
Our intel imac is over a year and not under warranty however, why the heck should a main logic board go bad - processor bad -after a little over a year. This machine sits on a desk never moves, never turns off. Not very dependable considering we are still using G5's that have been on desks for 5 years, still use a powermac 6100 for our shiva lan rover!!! sill use boni blue imac's - 50+ of them! I was hoping there would have been a re call or warranty extension something "FORD" like to get this fixed. Parts are about 2300 (need a hd too) and brand new is 1700. Somethings wrong here!
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Furthermore, your good experience with G5s and bondi blue iMacs is not representative of all G5s and bondi blue iMacs. If you navigate the forum, you'll find there are lemons of every model, in every age group. They aren't common, but the forum will give the impression that they are, because this is a troubleshooting forum. When there is a warranty extension, it is found here:
http://www.apple.com/support/exchange_repair/
If you want to suggest it, there are feedback pages:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
and
http://www.apple.com/support/feedback/
or you can go to your nearest authorized repair center and suggest it.

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so far ive used the finder in osx and toast to burn it but the powermac cant read the CD
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Leopool,
Some have found that using CD-RW disks makes them hard for older computers to read. I use CD-R disks for most transfers.
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PowerMac 6100 Upgrade Guide
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