PowerMac 6500 and Rage 128

Is there any reason a pci Rage 128 won't play nice with a Powermac 6500? I've tried two Rage 128s (both from B&W G3s) on it so far and nothing works. In fact, in System Profiler it just shows up as a generic "display card".
I have tested both cards in a G3 and they display fine. I'm using the drivers included with Mac 9.1.

Not sure. I have a PowerMac 7600/132 running OS 8.6 and I installed a retail ATI Rage 128 Orion card with 16MB VRAM and it works like a charm. The card was bought for a Beige G3 and became surplus when I upgraded the G3 to an original ATI Radeon 32MB VRAM card (not the later and less effective Radeon 7000).
Do you see the little ATI control center icon in the menu bar?
I needed older drivers that were not on the ATI (now part of AMD) website and e-mailed them.They sent s zip file with all the old drivers. However, the retail cards often used a different set of drivers than those for an Apple-installed card.

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Can't install Rage 128 Pro in my Powermac G5

I have a 2.3 Ghz DP (not dual core) Powermac G5 with AGP Pro slot.
I have very minimal video needs, and would love to replace the X800XT card currently installed with something with very low AC requirements so that I can reduce the heat (and resultant need for fans) in the G5. I'm using the G5 for audio only and the fan noise is killer.
I thought I'd just swap in a Rage 128 Pro (as used in my G4 Cube), but no dice.
What is the least powerful graphics card I can install?
thanks in advance

what about something like this? cheaper, and looks like it generates less heat, given the much smaller heat sink.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310184354688&ssPageName=STRK: MEWAX:IT
Would a rage pro 128 card with the 'registration tab' work in AGP Pro slots?
for example,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120496950714&ssPageName=STRK: MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400059112053&ssPageName=STRK: MEWAX:IT
Perhaps these won't work because they are not Mac specific?
Thanks for all the help guys

8600 and ATI Rage 128

Hello all. I have an 8600/200 with a Sonnet G3 400 upgrade card running OS 9.1. I installed an ATI Rage 128 video card from a PM G3 (blue and white, I think). It works OK but when I'm surfing the web and I scroll up/down the page doesn't scroll smoothly, but is instead choppy. I know the card is not native to this 8600 model, but is there any way to smooth out the scrolling choppiness? Is there a driver download from Apple or ATI? Or, would there be another type of video card that would remedy the scrolling for this machine? I installed this card to help speed up the startup since I am using an IBM monitor and at startup it takes longer for the monitor to turn on. Before I installed the ATI card, it had a VGA adapter which worked OK but also had the same startup delay for the monitor, but the scrolling worked better. I've had the same delay with other monitors. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. John

I'm with Grant in assigning 40-odd MB of Ram for use by any OS 9-and-below browser, and with Jeff in using a RAM Disk (under any OS that is capable of supporting one) for the browser's cache, be that browser Netscape, Mozilla or IE. That the RAM Disk may not be persistent (ie, is lost at shutdown) is not often, if ever, a source of sorrow.
If screen redrawing (as tested by Chris's suggestion) is slow, the suspicion has to be that the video card's memory is deficient, either in quantity or activity. If that is the case, removal of the card and careful cleaning of its edge connector, followed by its reseating, and careful checking for the presence and loading of its drivers (in Extensions Manager) may be in order. The quantity oof VRAM you can do little about but by upgrading the whole card. It is not impossible that some housekeeping of your hard drive may be in order. How full is it (85% or less is desirable)? Has it been recently defragmented both as to files and file directory to provide contiguous free space and ready access to files? You may have arrived at a point where the accumulation of little hindrances has become a large hurdle.

Network and Upgrade PowerMac 6500

I own a PowerMac 6500 that could be considered all but new. It was never used very much by the original owner. It came originally with OS 8.X, but it has been upgraded to OS 9.1. I believe this is as far as this computer can be upgraded.
I'm not that Mac knowledgeable, my Leopard iMac is the first Mac I've ever owned.
I would like to add this computer to my home network, but the computer is at the other end of the house. I occasionally use the computer, and for file transfer I have to use the old "sneaker net" method using Zip 100 disks. That method is becoming a PITA since the ZIP units are/have disappeared.
And I would like to keep the cost as low as possible. This is a project of convenience, not of necessity.
My router is a Netgear RangeMax wireless router, model WNR834Bv2.
There are no ethernet ports on the rear of the computer.
I would prefer to run an ethernet cable, but when I think of the work it would take, I'm not particularly fond of that idea. So, I'd be willing to do a wireless connection if the cost doesn't get out of hand.
What would I need to buy to connect to the network, both wired and wireless?
Anyone have suggestions as to where to find the needed hardware?
The computer has 94mb of RAM, which I would like to increase. I do have a lot of old RAM chips from old PC's laying about. Any chance any of these extra RAM chips I have would work? Could I actually swap some of the chips and turn the computer on without risking any damage?
Any help and advice would appreciated.
Thanks.
Ken

Hello Ken,
The router I have for the network is also wireless so I shouldn't need a bridge. I use the wireless portion for updating my cell phone. All I think I need is a card in the computer.
A wireless Ethernet bridge does not replace the wireless router. The router acts as a base station. The wireless Ethernet bridge in this case (connected by cable to the Ethernet network card in the computer) operates as a wireless adapter, and connects wirelessly to the base station.
Instead of using a wireless Ethernet bridge combined with an Ethernet network card, it would in principle be possible to use one single (PCI) wireless card in the computer. However, the problem can be finding drivers for the operating system in question. A wireless Ethernet bridge device does not have this problem.
I was just given a Netgear wireless bridge, and this has me wondering, would it also serve as a receiver as well as a transmitter?
Which model is it?
A wireless Ethernet bridge can both send and receive, just as a wireless network card.
I also have an old D-Link Wireless USB adapter, but the computer does not have a USB port either.
Even if you could install a USB (PCI) card, you would probably face the same problem as above with the drivers for the wireless USB adapter.
Jan

Rage 128 Pro and HP Monitor= 'Input Not Supported'. Need help.

I recently purchased this monitor for my Mac G4 (Digital audio model with Rage 128 Pro);
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=7246171&Redir=1&description= HP-Smart%20Buy%20w19%2019-inch%20LCD%20Widescreen%20Flat%20Panel%20Monitor-Monit ors
When I power up the Mac I can see the apple logo as OSX starts to boot but soon thereafter I get a black screen with a little floating window that says, 'Input Not Supported'.
What does this mean in technical terms and do I need to return the monitor?
Thanks.

Hi-
The monitor is telling you that the input being received is not supported. This is because the rage 128 is too weak a graphics card to drive the HP Monitor ( or any LCD over 17" for that matter).
You will need a better graphics card to run the display.
As for which graphics card, basically, most any 4x AGP Mac compatible card +other than+ the Rage 128 (or Pro) will work to drive the monitor.
http://hardcoremac.stores.yahoo.net/memory3.html
http://www.welovemacs.com/agpvideocards.html
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/video/hardware/

ATi Rage 128 PRO with DVI adaptor

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and those on G5 and Mac Mini?
Is there any other solution that I can output the display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
Thank you so much!!
Cheers,
Lawrence

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a
VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work
with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for
PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences
between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and
those on G5 and Mac Mini?
It's not the port, but the card that matters. The conversion to video is done by the card. The adapter just sends the output to the correct pins. I think the only cards that work are the recent ATI cards. Yours is probably too old. ATI's web-site doesn't have any information on it.
Is there any other solution that I can output the
display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
You can get a newer graphics card or use a VGA to Video converter.
<http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/PC-TVvideoadapter.html>
There are other, cheaper, ones.

[SOLVED] Sluggish perfomance with ATi Rage 128

Currently I have multiple issues with the following hardware
CPU - Intel Pentium III (Katamai) 500Mhz
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] [1106:0691] (rev 42)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] [1106:8598]
00:07.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] [1106:0596] (rev 12)
00:07.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 08)
00:07.3 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management [1106:3050] (rev 20)
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 [1102:0002] (rev 05)
00:08.1 Input device controller [0980]: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port [1102:7002] (rev 05)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
00:0a.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE RAID Controller [1106:3249] (rev 50)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP [1002:5246]
First of all it's not possible to watch xvid encoded movies without problems that is, audio is out of sync of the picture
glxinfo | grep -i render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Rage 128 20051027 AGP 2x x86/MMX/SSE
mplayer -vo xv /mnt/storage/Videos/In\ Lies\ We\ Trust\ -\ Dr.\ Len\ Horowitz/In\ Lies\ We\ Trust\ -\ Len\ Horowitz\ 2007\ -\ official\ release_xvid.avi
MPlayer SVN-r29318-4.4.0 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
137 audio & 296 video codecs
Playing /mnt/storage/Videos/In Lies We Trust - Dr. Len Horowitz/In Lies We Trust - Len Horowitz 2007 - official release_xvid.avi.
AVI file format detected.
[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO: [XVID] 640x480 16bpp 29.970 fps 492.8 kbps (60.2 kbyte/s)
Clip info:
Artist: Dr. Leonard Horowitz
Copyright: Copy Freely
Name: In Lies We Trust
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 32000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/12.50% (ratio: 16000->128000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
AO: [oss] 32000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
[mpeg4 @ 0x8890b20]Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [xv] 640x480 => 640x480 Planar YV12
[mpeg4 @ 0x8890b20]frame skip 8t: 0.000 1/ 1 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[mpeg4 @ 0x8890b20]frame skip 8t: 0.000 2/ 2 ??% ??% ??,?% 1 0
A: 91.6 V: 91.1 A-V: 0.495 ct: 0.239 2730/2730 85% 6% 4.1% 120 0
**** Your system is too SLOW to play this! ****
Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
- Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
- Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
- Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
- Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
- Try -nocache.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html for tuning/speedup tips.
If none of this helps you, read DOCS/HTML/enmplayer -vo xv /mnt/storage/Videos/In\ Lies\ We\ Trust\ -\ Dr.\ Len\ Horowitz/In\ Lies\ We\ Trust\ -\ Len\ Horowitz\ 2007\ -\ official\ release_xvid.avi
MPlayer SVN-r29318-4.4.0 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
137 audio & 296 video codecs
Playing /mnt/storage/Videos/In Lies We Trust - Dr. Len Horowitz/In Lies We Trust - Len Horowitz 2007 - official release_xvid.avi.
AVI file format detected.
[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO: [XVID] 640x480 16bpp 29.970 fps 492.8 kbps (60.2 kbyte/s)
Clip info:
Artist: Dr. Leonard Horowitz
Copyright: Copy Freely
Name: In Lies We Trust
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 32000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/12.50% (ratio: 16000->128000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
AO: [oss] 32000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
[mpeg4 @ 0x8890b20]Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [xv] 640x480 => 640x480 Planar YV12
[mpeg4 @ 0x8890b20]frame skip 8t: 0.000 1/ 1 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[mpeg4 @ 0x8890b20]frame skip 8t: 0.000 2/ 2 ??% ??% ??,?% 1 0
A: 91.6 V: 91.1 A-V: 0.495 ct: 0.239 2730/2730 85% 6% 4.1% 120 0
**** Your system is too SLOW to play this! ****
Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
- Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
- Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
- Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
- Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
- Try -nocache.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html for tuning/speedup tips.
If none of this helps you, read DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html.
Xorg.conf - http://pastebin.ca/1430775
Xorg.0.log - http://pastebin.ca/1430776
Not to mention that there are several more issues such as slow scrolling using Midori, Mouse cursor flickering and incorrect refresh rate selected upon starting X session
Thanks.
Last edited by esters (2009-05-24 18:35:30)

It will be nice to see if this is fixed. I have a slow keyboard and mouse issues since upgrading xorg-server to 1.6.1. I have not found a fix for these yet.

Supported flat panel displays for an ATI Rage 128 Pro/G4 500

I originally was using an Apple 21" CRT display with my G4/500 until the display's picture tube failed. I am now looking to purchase a flat panel w/DVI, using my G4's DVI video port and the Rage 128 Pro card. I have found conflicting information on resolutions supported by the ATI card. I am looking at a Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD, and the requirements indicate that my system must be able to support WSXGA+ resolution (1680 x 1050). A 24" version of the Dell monitor requires the support of WUXGA resolution (1920x1200). WIll either of these flat panel monitors work with my G4? If not, what specs do I need to look at to determine compatibility? Thanks.
Apple G4 500 Mac OS X (10.3.1) ATI Rage 128 Pro Graphics Card

Hi JBernstein,
Karl,
I greatly appreciate your efforts to resolve my
question.
No worries, Mate!
To address a question you posed earlier, no, my G4
did not come with a ADC port. I have both VGA and
DVI-D ports on my G4/500 (Graphite) with the Rage 128
Pro ADP card, which is 16 mb and 2x.
From that, I would infer that you computer is not ADC enabled.
It was the Genius at
the Apple Store who mentioned the Radeon 9000 card as
a replacement. but he also suggested that the current
20" Apple display would work with my G4 ... we tried
that today, and the OS would not launch and power the
display. SO, we must replace the card, or live with
small displays.
Yes, the ATY 128 Pro generally does not have enough grunt to power the larger displays.
I did find a number of Radeon 9600 Pro Mac Edition
video cards on eBay, but most had a published spec of
4X, and the response to whether it was backwards
compatible with the 2x capability in my G4/500 is
that it will not work. Is that true?
All the information I have (via the ATI website) does not specifically state that the 9600 card will support AGP 2X. Other ATI cards that do support 2X have this specifically stated in the information. Therefore, there is no garauntee that the 9600 card will support 2X. Until I receive information that someone has used this card in an AGP 2X computer with success, I cannot advise trying to use it.
I have not
confirmed the Radeon 8500 as yet, but as you might
imagine, it is frustrating to get conflicting
responses.
The ATI Radeon 8500 will work in your computer (as, partially, will the 9000 - refer to my earlier posting).
Perhaps you might address a different question ... is
there any place within Apple that I can go, even with
paying a fee for services, that would definitively
provide an absolute solution to an upgrade type
question, complete with exact part number AND
guarantee that the information is quite accurate? Why
wouldn't Apple provide some type of infomration on
replacement/upgrade path for older products (geez ---
the G4/500 Graphite isn't even on the legacy products
list yet) so that the customer can invest and upgrade
without going through a challenging process to get
the right information? The information I've turned up
is vague and not geared towards solutions like this.
Apple, for all sorts of reasons (legal and commercial), is loath to provide "official" advice on the use of any third party upgrade hardware on their products. Moreover, discussions on the morality of this is probably against the terms and conditions of this discussion forum.
I'm all ears as to how to move forward with this G4
with a replacement card, if that is possible.
The way I see it, you need either an ATI 8500/9000 if your only desired upgrade is the capacity to run larger displays, or an ATI 9800 is you wish to do gaming, graphics and be able to make full use of all the new Tiger graphics facilities.
Cheers!
Karl

PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro

I just bought an ATI Rage 128 Pro 32MB PCI video card for my early quicksilver G4 (733 MHz, 1GB RAM). The idea was to add a second monitor to my 15" Apple Studio Display connected to the AGP card (ATI Rage 128 Pro with ADC and VGA). Doesn't work though:
Card does not show up in System Profiler.app in either PCI or Graphics/Displays
Display does not show up in System Preferences.app - Displays tab
Quick search on Apple.com, ATI, OWC, and Google reveals no driver information for this card.
Thanks in advance,
-- Aubrey Granner

The reason I bought this card was how I plan to use it and what I already have.
Right now, I have an older Apple Studio Display that I like and don't want to replace. It requires a Apple Display Connector, so that means I have to keep the current AGP card:
from System Profiler
ATY,Rage128Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,Rage128Pro
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 16 MB
Vendor: ATI
Apple Studio Display:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported
I just bought a new LCD TV and it's near the mac so I thought I'd get a VGA cable and watch videos on the new screen. I don't need the "horsepower" because I'm not doing intense graphic processing, just flat, high-resolution video (I like to watch European TV shows).
Because of these reasons I bought the cheapest PCI card I could: $20
If there's another card that will work for what I want to do without breaking the bank, please let me know.
Thanks,
-- Aubrey Granner

Rage 128 Problems

(WW) R128(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xf0000000,0x2000000)
(EE) R128(0): No DFP detected
(WW) R128(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xf0000000,0x2000000)
:? I have a rage 128 pro, from ATI. I'm using the kernel26 2.6.5 arch linux pacakge. I get this error, and I have no 3d support. I get the same error for both xorg and xfree! And ideas anyone?

Here is my glxinfo output:
[oak3@OakPc oak3]$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
GLX_EXT_visual_rating
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.4 Mesa 5.0.2)
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture,
GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient,
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix,
GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax,
GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_copy_texture,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal,
GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color,
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_two_side, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap,
GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D,
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle,
GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once,
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat,
GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle,
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp,
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture,
GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 Slow
0x25 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x26 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x27 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x28 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 Slow
0x29 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x2a 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x2b 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x2c 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 Slow
0x2d 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x2e 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x2f 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x30 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 Slow
0x31 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 0 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
0x32 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 Slow
And here are some parts of my XF86Config file:
Section "Module"
# This loads the DBE extension module.
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
Load "type1"
Load "speedo"
# Load "freetype"
# Load "xtt"
# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
Load "dri"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Standard VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
# Chipset "generic"
Driver "vga"
# BusID "PCI:0:10:0"
# VideoRam 256
# Clocks 25.2 28.3
EndSection
# Device configured by xf86config:
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI rage128"
Driver "r128"
#VideoRam 32768
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

Driver for the ati rage 128 ultra graphics card

WE ARE SUPPILED SOLORIES 8 (INTEL BASED) 02/02 TO ONE OF MY CUSTOMER.WE TRY TO INSTALL ON HP XE 320 PC.GRPHICS CARD DRIVER WAS NOT SELLECTING AUTOMATICALLY.IN THAT SYSTEM ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA GRAPHICS CARD(32MB ).WE ARE TRYING DIFFERNT ATI CHIPSET BUT NOT LOADING O/S FINALLY WE SELECT 640*480 STANDARD DRIVER AND LOADING COMPLTELY.I REQUIRE DRIVER FOR ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA DRIVERS.CAN YOU PL. PROVIDE ME.

Hello,
the drivers have been supplied with patch 109401-10. Maybe there are laters revisions.
Patch-ID# 109401-10
Keywords: security X11 6.4.1_x86 video driver ati 810 matrox nvidia s3 kdmconfig
Synopsis: SunOS 5.8_x86: Updated video drivers and fixes
Date: Jul/23/2001
Solaris Release: 8_x86
SunOS Release: 5.8_x86
Best regards
Michael

HOW TO ATi Rage 128

Hello,
I've posted a few topics about my ATi Rage 128 card... all with minimal help. Unfortunatley there doesn't seem to be anybody out there that knows how to use the Video card... I want to know how to use the inputs on the card? Can I use them as video capture tools? Should i, instead of trying to get this to work, just upgrade to a radeon card??? Thanks in advance,

There are no current video cards (with engines newer than the ATI Rage 128 that allow video input), the newer cards only have S-Video, DVI and VGA output. Using them is simple. Plug in the desired device and boot your machine, at least thats how it should work.
As far as I know, the Rage 128s video input is the only supported under OS9 or earlier. As for output, it works just like any other graphics card, although I think it only supports one screen at a time, but I could be wrong.
http://www.ati.com/products/ragepro/xclaimvr/features.html

No kext for Xserve's ATI RAGE 128 in Leopard

Xserve running OS X Server 10.5.2
The Xserve has an ATI RAGE 128 PCI graphics card from an old G3 Blue & White. System Profiler shows no kext loaded for the graphics card. The monitor displays OK, but ScreenSharing and Timbuktu both display ragged text and graphics when connecting to the Xserve.
The Extensions for the older ATI RAGE 128 graphics cards are absent from Leopard, since it isn't spec'ed to run on the B&W.
Has anyone tried using the ATI RAGE 128 Extensions from Tiger in Leopard?
Has anything changed in the way extensions are implemented that would cause Tiger's ATI RAGE 128 Extensions to fail?
TIA,
Sam

The Rage 128 Pro has all the drivers it needs in OSX, and OS9.2x. Since ATI considers it a discontinued product, they do not supply any drivers or support for it anymore. Try a google search for a manual, you might find one. Make sure to look for the Mac Rage 128 when you look it up.
Here is the thing, because these cards were shipped OEM by Apple (not retail) they didn't come with any cables or manuals, that I am aware of. You might find one for a similar Mac ATI Rage 128 based video card.

Hmmm.... Original 16 Meg ATI AGP Rage 128 Pro or 32 Meg ATI PCI Mac 7000 ?

I have both of these cards installed in my 466 (soon to be 733) MHz DA tower.
Which one should I be using for best all-around performance ???
M

Jeff sez:
The Radeon GPU is better/faster than the older Rage 128 Pro. In addition to having more memory, the Radeon cards have DDR SDRAM, as opposed to the SDRAM found on the Rage card. The performance difference between the two cards is noticeable, so I'd go with the Radeon.
I sez:
To check out the difference between PCI vs AGP video performance I used a 22 inch LaCie set at millions of colours on my AGP Graphics Digital Audio G4 tower, I installed two contemporary video cards in it and then ran only the video component of XBench on the computer twice, once with the monitor connected to each card and nothing connected to the other. The results were more or less what I expected, but they were interesting. The two cards I used for the test were both ATI cards. One of them was the 16-meg Rage128 Pro AGP card that came stock in my 466 MHz DA G4 tower and the other was a theoretically much better 32-meg DDR ATI Radeon PCI 7000 Mac Edition. The only other installed PCI card (besides the Radeon 7000) is a VIA Vectro VT6212L USB 2.0 card.
When the video testing was all finished the AGP card, with 16 Megs of VRAM, scored considerably higher than the 32-meg PCI card in every category of the test. The overall XBench score for the computer, with no other changes, was 32.08 with the PCI video card and 38.04 with the Rage 128 Pro AGP graphics card installed. Frames per second for spinning squares results were 55.58 with the PCI card, 65.77 with AGP. What was most notable was the Text results: only 2.13 thousand characters per second with the 32-meg DDR Radeon 7000 Mac Edition versus a whopping 5.12 thousand characters per second with the 16-meg AGP card.
I suspected the AGP was better than PCI but I did not expect a 16-meg AGP card to overwhelm a PCI card with 32MB of double data rate memory. Live & learn.

15" Apple flat screen monitor will it work with rage 128 pro

Hya, I have just bought a 17" Apple monitor and want to know it the rage 128 pro AGP card will work or whether either of these on ebay are suitable, I am totaly confused with all the different variations.
Item 230117175047
Item 130100198656
Thanks for any advice you can give
Robert

no answer so withdrawn

PowerMac 6500 and Rage 128

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