Powermac g4 500mhz agp "Is my motherboard Dead?"

My g4 was having a small problem everytime I started to use safari.,it would open then close..I could not get it to stay open..I would restart and then try again..same results..then after restarting second time the computer seems to be unable to complete the restart sequence..then all of a sudden DEAD..power seems ok,hardrive may have died, no big dead..tried different hd nothing...now I have no display,chime,and I am unable to use the dvd-rom to load os back on...I do have a Red Light by the memory slots...and if I connect the dvd-rom drive to the motherboard it does not respond,but as soon as I disconnect the drive it opens and closes..now I am talking about the ide cable that attaches to the motherboard...any idea what is going on..cause I am out of ideas,is the motherboard Dead?

Hi-
I would look for a minimum of a 867MHz Quicksilver or a 933 MHz Quicksilver 2002 model.
Both, besides being faster, have an L3 cache with the processor that the 733 machine doesn't.
This cache really helps with video/graphic/game performance.
The 2002 Quicksilvers (800, 933 and dual 1.0GHz) are more desirable than the first QS (733, 867, and dual 800) because they have native support for larger than 128GB hard drives.
The 800MHz QS 2002 doesn't have the L3 cache, just like the 733MHz processor.
Also, because the greater than 867MHz machines are able to run Leopard, they can use more modern software.
Other than that, and CPU, the machines are all identical.
As compared to the other machines that you have (G3 and G4) the 733 is a much better machine.
It could really use the L3 cache, though.
Only replacing the processor can provide that....
BTW, I have 3 933MHz QS 2002 machines, and find it to be a very capable machine.
My daughter uses one, and doesn't complain about online activities (video & games) like she did with a dual 500MHz Gigabit Ethernet.
Another one is used as a media server for our family entertainment center, and is also very capable with the tasks that it performs.

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Well i will hope for the best and if it doesn't work what will happen?
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Quote from: bonehead2 on 05-August-12, 06:06:09
Hello again helpers. So, PSU is not dead, and with another friends 500W PSU everything are the same. The computer turns on, but black screen, no speaker sound, no boot, no nothing. All coolers work in all speed, case power leds do not shine and also can't turn off computer by the power button just need to unplug power cable. Seems my MOBO is really dead...
Well, this is lesson for me is how to do something crazy but with a little response before I get my best results. Now it will be expensive for me to back to the start. Hope that the other HW parts are ok... Thanks all for the help.
hopefully the other parts are ok, just start by getting a new motherboard as like i originally said you more then likely blew out a VRM or 2 or a capacitor!
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other possible causes,
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Motherboard dead?!?!?!

I am building a new ring ...
I have a 550 watt power supply (24 pin to 20 pin converter), ati 9700 pro video card, atx tower case, 512 ocz dual channel ddr ram pc4200, floppy,cd drive.
When i first turn on the computer it says this
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Johney,
You've been asked several times now - READ THIS MOAN GUIDE, create a signature with ALL your system specifcations as you see from most users and the mods.
So far you have asked the same question time and time again and from what I can see (I've read the thread 3 times now) you still haven't even told us what type the motherboard is or what the processor is!!!
Nothing on the monitor at all suggests 1 of 3 things, CPU, Motherboard, or Memory is either dead or not configured correctly, but until we know what we are dealing with, how do you expect us to be able to answer your questions.
If you bought the board refurbished from newegg then your only course of action is to send it back to newegg, I do not speak for them, but I highly doubt MSI will touch it with a barge pole.
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Use your 550W power supply (the 200W unit is useless - if you've managed to post in the correct forum that is)
Use a single stick of memory in socket 1
Take the processor out and check for contamination in the ZIF socket holes and on the processor pins.
Check the ZIF socket mechanism to ensure all clamps are working correctly.
Insert your processor and close the ZIF socket.
Add your Heatsink and Fan with relevant Thermal Interface Material (grease of white goop)
Unplug ALL IDE, SATA, and USB connectors.
Trying Booting the system and tell us what happens.
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I do not like the sound of your description of posting - If it is the Promise message you mentioned in your original post that comes up first, it is either a motherboard I have never heard of or something is VERY VERY wrong. It could be that the true AMIBIOS is either damaged or has been wiped.
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It can also be motherboard not sensing pwr_ok from the psu .
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I received my motherboard today from Amazon, fitted into into my case as normal to find it wasn't working as expected.
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Hi, i am reposting a follow-up question and hoping BDAqua might catch this and be able to reply
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I love my old Macs too much to just throw them away, so I want to recycle (parts) of it at least. Heck, I still have our old PowerBook 5300 stuffed into my closet! (amazingly, it still works perfectly - apart from a finicky floppy drive)
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Thanks, I'll look into the apple thing - I like the iPod idea too.
And to Anticitizen - I don't have any optical drives around. It's not the discs that are bad - but the drive itself. I don't have any Hard drives or PC 133 RAM either. I dont' like Windoze either, but she doesn't care (OMG!). It's just that everyone has a computer they like/can use. So, the G4 has been in a corner for 2 years, and I thought it'd find a new use.
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