PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 GHz Bootup issues

So, although I have much knowledge about Windows and a decent amount of knowledge about Linux Operating Systems, I know little to nothing about Mac OS X. My knowledge of iOS 8.1.2 is very good, but switching to Apple as my main provider of computer and phone systems and parts has been frustrating. I have 3 PowerMac G5's, each the dual 2.0 GHz models that I recieved as a housewarming gift to the Apple community. However, when I start up the computer, I get a flashing symbol with the "Finder" application logo, then a square with a "?" In it, then back and forth with a second between each flash. I've tried holding the option key with and turning it on (with no CD, with a copy of OSX mountain lion on a disc in the drive, and with a copy of Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS burned to a disc in the drive). I have tried installing the Mac OSX Mountain Lion to the hard drive on a separate computer, then booting it using the PowerMac, but to no avail. Can anyone help me with this issue? I've fallen for Apple and won't revert back to windows, but don't want to buy a whole new Apple computer.

Tiger Requirements...
To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs:
    * A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
    * Built-in FireWire
    * At least 256 MB of RAM (I recommend 1GB minimum)
    * DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation
    * At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools (I recommend 20GB minimum)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
Apple may even have an International version, but reports are sporadic...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5231053?tstart=0
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+tiger+retail+10.4
See Tom's, (Texas Mac Man), great info on where/how to find/get Tiger...
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15305521#15305521
Or Ali Brown's great info on where/how to find/get Tiger...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10381710#10381710
Leopard requirements/10.5.x...
    * Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor
minimum system requirements
    * 512MB of memory (I say 1.5GB for PPC at least, 2-3GB minimum for IntelMacs)
    * DVD drive for installation
    * 9GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)
Classic/OS9 Apps no longer supported.
May be available from Apple again, or not...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4720126?tstart=0
Trouble is Apple no longer sells it, check eBay & such for the Retail version, not the Gray Discs...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+leopard+retail+10.5
List of Applications Not Compatible with Leopard...
http://guides.macrumors.com/List:Applications_Not_Compatible_with_Leopard

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Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 Ghz machines made in 2004 ship with Tiger or Panther?

Reason I'm asking is I bought this mac used. The dude forgot his password, the machine freezes up intermitently, so I think I should reload the OS. However he forgot to give me the OS X system disks that come with it. He's been avoiding my phone calls about this. So I'd love any help anyone can give me on this system freeze up and password issue. Thanks!
Here are the specs:
Machine Name: Power Mac G5
Machine Model: PowerMac7,3
CPU Type: PowerPC G5 (2.2)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed: 2 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1.5 GB
Bus Speed: 1 GHz
Boot ROM Version: 5.1.8f7
150 gig HDD
Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 Ghz Mac OS X (10.4) 1.5 ram, 150 gig hdd

Other than having to buy Tiger OS, there is no reason not to. I have Tiger on even older 2003 G4 MDD and Blue G3 (Yosemite) still running 10.4.9. Well, I don't use the G3.... but I 'could' - and run okay for basic stuff.
The only things to consider is that you have updated your software and such to run on Tiger (can't see that being an issue 2 yrs after Tiger shipped, unlike Apr 2005 when it was a 'learning curve' for all of us).
I would backup, and then use Tiger DVD to re-format (Partition) and install, and then import or merge my files afterwards. Anyone with G5 from prior to Apr 2005 really is more likely and should upgrade to Tiger than stay with the original OS.

PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 Ghz. Want Start PLEASE HELP ME!!!

HI, all
I have MacPro G5 Dual 2.5 Ghz. 2004 PCI-X Bus
Yesterday my mac freeze during normal operation in Leopard 10.5.8
When I tried to restart the computer stop after display Apple Logo in the startup.
I have tried all this features:
1) Start from CD Same.
2) Reset SMU With Power Switch in the mani Board Same.
3) Reset Pram In some case the computer freeze and it's doesn't do that, in some other the Pram is reset but the machine still doesn't start.
4) Replace Pram Battery 3.6 V Same.
5) Start With Open Firmware (Altcommand+of) When i write "reset-all" The machine Freeze.
6) Start with Hardware test CD And IT Work Fine, all tests are passed with OK in base and exaust test!!!!!
7) At last I have replace the video Card, but same freeze at start.
I have tried to swap display using second monitor out And I have seen some strange things:
When I use second display connector the computer still freeze during the startup sequence after the apple logo, but when i shut off computer pressing 10 second the power switch and reconnect the first display connector the machine start normal al all work fine (INCREDIBLE!!)
But when I shutdown the computer the next time i try to power on it freeze in the same way!!!
Just for information if i start in verbose mode (command+v) the machine freeze after "DART Enable"
Please anyone could help me to resolve this issue?
Thank's In Advance and sorry for my bad english.
Bye

Hi, I have Dual 2.0 GHz machine and it has some of the symptoms yours has. In Open Firmware if I type reset-nvram, set-defaults and then reset-all the computer does freeze, but in my case if I type reset-all without those two the computer resets itself as it is supposed to do.
My computer usually hangs at the apple logo and verbose mode shows DART Enabled as last message, rarely it will not chime at all or will chime but so no picture. If sometimes boots fine and runs without problems for 15 seconds to 3 hours, in my case it seems that if I run the CPU's at maximum settings and put them to constant stress the system is more stable, which I think is odd.
I have replace PRAM battery but that did not change the situation. I will later try to reseat or remove one of the processors altough I don't know if these motherboards are designed to work with processors removed.
I think it is motherboard or CPU -issue.

Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 thermal calibration issue - Fans on full blast!

Hello, I need to do thermal calibration on powermac G5 dual 2.0. Does anyone know where to get ASD dual 2.5.8 discs? I'm afraid to run the computer with fans on full blast. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi, ASD has never been available to the public, but even if somebody had any clues or other suggestions, you & Apple are the only ones that can see your eMail in your profile.

ISite external and PowerMac G5 dual 2.7 GHz - no signal

OK, so I fire up Delicious Library to enter some DVDs and when I click on the little camera icon, I get a black window with "no signal". Similarly if I fire up iChat, and click on the camera icon, there is only a black window - no image. In neither of these cases does the iSite's little green light come on.
Twisting the bezzel to open/close the iSite lens cover (which I only found out about today when searching for a solution to this problem - neat little shutter) has no effect.
If I unplug the iSite and plug it back in, the little green light comes on for about 3 seconds, then there is a click sound and then the light turns turns off.
The iSight does apear in the System Profiler, and if I have iChat set to open upon the iSight being plugged in, iChat does launch when I plug in the iSight.
I do not use the iSight very often, but I recall in the past there being some troubles with it being fully recognized, but previously I have been able to solve it by plugging/unplugging, loggin in/out, and similar sorts of tacticts. I have enven tried restarting the system, and that does not seem to have helped.
Anyone have any ideas? The "iSight: How to Troubleshoot" document at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93240 seems to indicate that it might be a hardware problem with the camera?
Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Hello Johann Beda,
Although you solved your own problem, I'm a bit surprised that you didn't come across the advice to never, not if you value your external HD data, never run or use your iSight at the same time while an external HD is in use. There are numerous stories & discussions of problems with iSight and external FW devices not playing well together and of lost data. I think you were probably lucky that you only experienced the cam not working.
Anytime you want to use the iSight, unplug the external HD. Otherwise your running a risk of lost data. And if your using the external HD for Delicious (scanning bar codes) you might want to consider adding a 2ns internalSATA HD to your G5. It takes less than 10 min and there are simple directions on the Apple support site.
I did, and have not had any problems. And I now use the external FW HD for backups every week.
Finally, as Ralph mentioned, there are somereports of problems w/Delicious but compared to the FW-iSight-Ext.HD issue, this conflict seems to be pretty rare.
Respectfully,
Bill Gallagher

Powermac G5 dual 2.3 Ghz melting?

Greetings from broke *** Iceland!
Sorry if my english is not spot-on perfect I'll try my best. When I turned my Powermac G5 on a few days ago the fans went berserk. As I understand this is a common problem on these machines. This has happened a time to time over the last 3 years but now they stay in overdrive all the time and my room is suddenly like a noisy airplane cabinet. So I have tried to blow all visible dust inside the case and from the fans. I also pulled the powerplug, reset the SMU and restarted again holding the altcommand+pr but it doesn't work. I tested the RAM and it is ok. I called my local Apple dealership in Reykjavik ( I live in Akureyri some 400KM away ) and they told me that it would have to be a bad heat sensor. That was what I also thought after some internet investigation until I found a program called Thermographx which reads heat sensors in Mac computers. It claims to be rather precise in readings, specially in later models like G5's and my readings tell me that my drive bay is 75°F
backside is 86°F
U3 heatsink is 114°F
CPU A AD7417 AMB is 86°F
CPU B AD7417 AMB is 262°F !!!
Is this normal? My computer runs fine...though....but isn't this rather hot and odd that only CPU B is overheating? Is my CPU dying and not a faulty sensor to blame? Is it save to keep working on it like this? Maybe this program isn't perfect...but 262 worries me.
My dealership in Reykjavik put in a new motherboard one year ago, a new powerunit, fixed some other minor things and it took 8 weeks. Horrible service here in Iceland so I'm not too happy to go there again if I don't have to since i'm a graphic freelancer and this machine is my bread and butter. Last time I got a loaner after one month!
The computer is in a fairly good ventilated room and it is getting enough air circulation - the same as always I guess. I just moved to a new place and this happened the first time I turned it on in the new place but I was very careful when moving the case. It got a bit of a bump one time though, not very hard, I would be suprised if that damaged the B CPU in some way? Could it? Both fans are working 100%.
Any ideas what to do - I know computers fairly good - but I'm not a technician.
Cheers
Hafsteinn Thordarson

Hello hafz,
I use iStat Pro widget for temperature monitoring. My CPU A and B reads 113 and 102, respectively. The Ambient reads 92 and 90, respectively.
Your CPU B Ambient is very high. A good guess is a faulty temperature sensor or a need for re-calibration. This is done using the Apple Service Diagnostic CD. A local Apple service facility should be able to help.
Search the net and try to find out more about replacing, disconnecting, checking the connection of the bad sensor, or where to locate the sensor for inspection. I would guess that someone else on the net has had a similar problem and has posted their experience.
Best Regards

Powermac G5 dual 2.5 issues!

I purchased a pre-owned Powermac G5 Dual 2.5 ghz. It has 4gb ram and is running Mac OSX 10.5.8. Very shortly after I purchased the computer I had a crash and couldn't get it to start back up. I tried to re-install software and it would go part of the way thru and crash on the install every time. I started the machine in target mode and hooked it to my old trusty G4. I was able to install the software that way with no issues. I then went back to the G5 and tried installing updates, but part of the way thru the updates it would crash saying the update was possibly corrupt, ( these were straight from apple so I doubt that ) thus leaving my g5 unable to restart because of the partial software update. I did the target mode again, this time installing all of the updates using my G4. After all was said and done, I was back to where i had started when i bought it. I now keep to be getting freeze issue with the machine. I can be online using safari and all of a sudden I get the spinning color wheel. When this happens I can not even force quit the app, it will just sit there spinning away. Tonight i tried opening firefox and it started up and ran for a few minutes before freezing also. A few days ago I had tried to burn a dvd using toast, and that app also froze up and would not let me force quit. I have not had any issues like this from my G4, and after trying resetting the SMU, PRAM and many many hard restarts, I am no closer to knowing what the issue could be. Any help or ideas for me to try would be much appreciated. Thanks, Mike

Have you blown the dust out of it since you got it?
Possibly a temperature problem or bad RAM/RAM slots.
Get Temperature Monitor to see if it's heat related...
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12381/temperature-monitor
iStat Menus...
http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/
And/or iStat Pro...
http://www.islayer.com/apps/istatpro/
If you have any temps in the 70°C/160°F range, that's likely it.
The Memory test can really only be trusted if it finds a problem, not if it doesn't find a problem.
Memtest OS X...
http://www.memtestosx.org/joomla/index.php
Rember is a freeware GUI for the memtest ...
http://tech.kateva.org/2005/10/rember-freeware-memory-test-utility.html

Random shutdown problem on G5 dual 2.3 GHz w/OS 10.4.7

Hello,
I’m using a dual 2.3 GHz G5, and it’s been working flawlessly since I bought it about a year ago. Until yesterday, I was running OS 10.4.5. Yesterday I upgraded to 10.4.7, and as soon as I booted up after the install, I started having a maddening problem with my computer randomly shutting down. (Not sleeping, but a complete power down.)
At first, the shutdown would happen immediately after powering up; my computer wouldn’t even make it to the blue progress bar. I zapped the PRAM and tried something I found online about unplugging the computer for 15 seconds, then plugging it back in. It now boots up, and I can log in, but the computer still shuts down randomly.
There seems to be no pattern to the shutdowns. I tried taxing the processor by opening and resampling huge Photoshop files while lots of other apps were open, and things were fine. Then it would conk out while I was composing an email.
I’ve heard of this random shutdown problem affecting Macbooks, but I have yet to find anything about G5 towers and OS 10.4.7. Does anyone have any info/advice?
Many thanks.
G5 dual 2.3 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.7) 2.5 GB RAM, 250 GB HD
G5 dual 2.3 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.7) 2.5 GB RAM, 250 GB HD

Thanks for the advice. I did check the system.log in Console and found the following altert:
PMU FORCED SHUTDOWN, CAUSE = -122
Now, since my computer is just over a year old, and since this problem happened immediately after applying the 10.4.7 OS update, I found it hard to believe that my hardware could be responsible. After 2 days of troubleshooting, I was stumped; after a 2-hour service call, so was Apple tech support. I ended up doing an archive and install back down to 10.4.5, and all is well.
I tested this issue on other machines running 10.4.7 and had no problems. It seems that the following specific combination of elements triggered the problem:
• PowerMac G5 dual 2.3 GHz (dual 1.8 machines did not exhibit the same problem)
• OS 10.4.7
• Logging in with Open Directory/Active Directory mobile profiles
• iTunes 7
Bottom line: if you’re using a dual 2.3 GHz PowerMac with mobile OD/AD profiles, do not update to 10.4.7, and steer clear of iTunes 7, at least until there is a patch update available.
(And Apple wants to be taken seriously in the enterprise market?)
G5 dual 2.3 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.7) 2.5 GB RAM, 250 GB HD

PowerMac g5 dual 2.7ghz keeps going to sleep every few minutes

My powermac g5 dual 2.7 ghz starts up and runs fine for approx 2 minutes then goes to sleep, I can wake the screen but it goes back to sleep shortly afterwards. Has anyone had the same problem or know of a way to fix this?

Hello,
Have you blown the dust out lately?
Get Temperature Monitor to see if it's heat related...
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12381/temperature-monitor
Open console in Applications>Utilities, check the system log for the date/time of the last problem & the Startup right after that for clues.

Thermal issues with PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 Processor

I've been having issues with my fans running super loud for no apparent reason. I have been told that my thermal meter for one of my processors has gone bad and that I have to replace both my processors at a cost of over $800! I am simply wondering if there has been any other issues even similar to this one or if anyone can tell me if I really do have to have both processors replaced for this situation. Also, I am wondering if anyone knows how to run the processor diagnostic where I can view my computers feedback for myself.
I am a starving designer and desperate to fix my biggest tool. Please let me know of any possible suggestions or cheap fixxes. If there is no way around replacing both processors, please let me know of any good mac processor retailers! Thanx all!
-Aron
Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 Processor Mac OS X (10.4.5)

You can check the temps and fans with
http://www.bresink.de/osx/HardwareMonitor.html
or
http://www.kezer.net/thermographx.html
Who has told you what the problem is? Has the G5 been in the shop?
Is there a pattern to the loud fan noise?
Is there a red light on inside?
How warm is the room?
Is there a dust build-up inside the G5?
A simple thing, but is Energy Saver - Processor Performance set to 'Automatic'?

Powermac G5 Dual Core 2.0 GHZ or Macbook Pro Dual Core 2.0 GHZ

I have a Macbook Pro Dual Core 2.0 GHZ that currently has 1 GB of RAM in it. For the most part it runs fine, but I do come into problems with it sometimes while I'm doing video editing which is my main usage for my computer. I currently run Final Cut Studio 2. Would it be worth it to sell this computer and get a Powermac G5 Dual Core 2.0 GHZ or 2.3 GHZ and upgrade the RAM to 8 GB to help my video editing run smoother? The reason why I am considering this is because I would like a computer that would work better with my video editing at a cost that I can afford. I also would like to have a firewire 800 port for my external hard drives. I rarely use my internal hard drive, so that is no factor in my decision. Currently I cannot afford a new Mac Pro, but will be buying one in about a year. I'm just trying to decide if this would be a good switch for right now. Thanks for your help.
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Although I don't own a Mac Pro, rumor has it that they run video chores significantly more efficiently than do the last generation G5's. I bought my 2.3 GHz, w/the 7800 card, for $600, last November on eBay. The case wasn't cosmetically perfect (a rather nasty looking crimp on the front handle) but it has performed well running my video (EyeTV and recording) and academic (I teach math & Mathematica) needs. I picked-up extra memory (it now has 6 Gigs) pretty cheap (around $75, IIRC), from Kingston. I also took the advice of many here and got a WD 640GB HD that made a significant difference in both boot-time and opening applications. However, if you're going to get a new Mac Pro in a year, it's almost like throwing money away - the G5 will probably have its' depreciation rate decrease once the software vendors no longer continue supporting pre-Intel machines. That being said, my G5 is more than sufficient handling my present version of Mathematica - I don't think that paying $3000, or whatever it takes to get a new Mac Pro, would balance the marginal increase of utility I would get using Mathematica. If I were a video guru, I might feel differently. I thought I could give you a definitive yes, buy the G5, because I really love mine. Unless something happens, I plan on having it for at least a few years. At about $250/year, if one figures that I'll have owned it for a total of 3 years, that's less than 70¢/day. But I also value the opinions of many of the posters who have commented on the new machine's speed, compared to the 2.5 GHz Quad, say.

Upgrading RAM on Dual 2.5 Ghz PowerMac

Ok, I just bought 8 1gb sticks of Hypervelocity RAM from macramdirect.com for my Dual 2.5 Ghz PowerMac. It already had 2.5gb of RAM sticks in there, so I was going to replace the 2.5 and stick it in 2 other G5's at the place I work at, and just run the 8 1gb sticks in my G5, that I use for video editing. When I stick the 8 1gb sticks in there, I boot it up and the fans kick on and the h/d spins, but nothing happens on the monitor and the power light flashes 2 times like every 5 seconds. So I basically started eliminating problems by starting with only 2 of the 8 sticks in the 1st dual slots. It still didn't fully boot up, give me the chime, and the power light flashed 2 times every 5 seconds. So I installed 2 of the 256mb chips in the 1st layer of the DIMM slots, and 2 of the 1gb sticks in the 2nd layer of the DIMM slots. It boots up completely, I hear the chime. I thought that this G5 could max out at 8gb, but is this totally true. Or can it only max out at probably 7gb, 1 gb short of the supposedly max given by apple??

Before talking to MacRamDirect, boot into Open Firmware (hold down four keys on startup/restart, doesn't even need to be a cold start):
CMD + OPT + O + F
then type three commands -
reset-nvram
set-defaults
reset-all
You may want or need to use the OPTION key to select your boot drive and reset it in Startup Disk c.p.
G5s don't always see or recognize the new RAM configuration; sometimes it only "shows up" when loading programs that require more RAM.
You should also boot from the Apple Hardware Test and run that as well. If all is working and showing up, I would then run Memtest overnight.
Why nvram or the device tree isn't being updated - no idea - but I have seen this happen and reset-nvram did the trick (also works when swapping hard drives and not showing, though not if you are ADDING a drive).

Is the airport extreme card incompatible with my powermac G5 dual 2 GHz?

I have installed an airport extreme card into my powermac G5 dual 2 GHz. It will only detect my router if it's in the same room and even then it has a very weak signal. Any suggestions?

You need both for it to work, but don't you have the card already?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_kw=Apple&_kw=Airport&_kw=Antenna&_kw=mac&_kw=g 5

Upgrade Powermac Dual 2.0 GHz G5(2004) or buy MacMini using Lightroom

I have a Power Mac Dual 2.0 GHz G5(June 2004) with 8 slots for RAM (4 GB installed) and a GeForce FX 5200 64 mb AGP video card. I also just installed a new 500 GB 7200 rpm harddrive to help. The G5 has been a work horse for me for many years. I hope upgrading my G5 is a viable option vs buying new.
I am a photographer and use Lightroom for all of my RAW photo processing. The problem I am having with Lightroom, on my G5, is after I import the Nikon Raw images into Lightroom, as I click on an image to edit in the develop module, I have to wait for 5-10 sec for the image to load before I can began editing. This is very time consuming for editing 300-400 images at a time. My MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz performs this without any problems and quickly. Will more RAM or a new video card help my G5? Apple store person told me 4 GB of RAM is plenty. Do I need a 128 mb or 256 mb video card? Maybe I should try a MAc Mini to hold me for a year. I plan on purchasing a 24" IMAC in 1-2 years. Thanks in advance for your time.
Dwayne

Q: Why start 2nd thread, even if one reply didn't fit or provide the options you wanted to hear?
Same question asked once already -
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10322869
I still think save and consider the next revision to the iMac line rather than throw more at your G5.
SATA drives that you can use now and in the future are likely to be safe investments.
People have used 3 x 10K VelociRaptors, along with cheaper but still fast WD Caviar 640GB as a great way to improve performance. SSDs are fast but probably for 1st gen G5 would require a PCI-X controller.
Check the Drive Upgrade DB:
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

Fan speed problem Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz PowerPC - please help

Please HELP, I have a fan speed problem with my Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz PowerPC
This is a NOT an Intel machine. I am running Mac OS X v10.5.8
Power Mac G5 - PowerMac 7,2 - Power PC 970 (2.2) - 1.8 GHz with 2 CPUs - L2 Cache (per CPU) 512 KB - Memory 8 GB - Bus Speed 900 MHz - Boot ROM version 5.1.5b1
I have included below Links to download a sound file (.m4a) that I recorded of the fan speed problem and both a .pdf and .spx files of my system profile.
download sound file
http://homepage.mac.com/rep3/filechute/myG5dualsFans.m4a
down load .spx file of my system preferences
http://homepage.mac.com/rep3/filechute/systemProfileREP3-G5dual.spx
down load .pdf file of my system preferences
http://homepage.mac.com/rep3/filechute/systemProfileREP3-G5dual.pdf
When did the fan problem start?
After I replaced the mother board on the computer.
Why did I replace the mother board?
Because the experts at apple agreed with my diagnosis that the major crash problems & kernel panics must have some thing to do with a logic board gone bad. They would not work on it, because this Power Mac G5 dual 1.8 GHz machine is now a legacy model.
What I have done to attempt to fix my fan speed problem? yes I checked the obvious things, here is a list:
1) yes I checked to be sure that the new mother board was the same part number as the original one, and that all things that were unplugged from the old mother board - were actually plugged into the new mother board.
2) all the fans work, I can see them spinning if I use a flashlight and look at them (cover on and off to get at some of them)
3) check all RAM to make sure: a) it was installed properly b) that the RAM worked using TechTool Pro c) even started the machine with only the original RAM that came with it.
4) I installed a Temperature monitor - to see if there was something reading as very hot inside that was causing the machine to continually run the fans at a high speed. No, no heat issues that I can see. Here are the reading from the sensors in degrees fahrenheit, 2009-10-11 16:11:01 -0500
CPU A Die Temperature: 75.7℉
CPU B Die Temperature: 81.5℉
Drive Bay: 68.9℉
Main Logic Board Air Inlet: 64.8℉
Main Logic Board Ambient: 73.6℉
Main Logic Board Backside: 76.3℉
Memory Controller Heatsink: 93.2℉
Processor Card A Ambient: 77.5℉
Processor Card B Ambient: 77.0℉
5) zapped the PRAM
6) followed the SMU reset instructions for
Power Mac G5 (Late 2004)
To reset the SMU on a Power Mac G5 (Late 2004) computer, simply do the following:
• Turn off the computer by selecting Shut Down from the Apple menu or by holding the power button until the computer turns off.
• Remove the power cord from the computer.
• Wait two minutes.
• Plug in the power cord.
• Turn on the computer.
7) followed the SMU reset instructions:
Resetting the Cuda/PMU
How to reset the PMU:
• If the computer is on, turn it off.
• Disconnect ALL cables from the computer, including peripherals and power.
• If possible, move the computer to a place where you are not standing on carpet.
• Open the case and ground yourself by touching part of the metal frame inside the computer.
• Find the Cuda or PMU button
• Press the Cuda or PMU button ONCE. Do not press the button more than once before starting the computer up again.
• Wait 10 seconds, then reconnect the cables you removed in step 2 and turn the computer on.
• If the computer still does not respond after resetting the PMU, the computer may require service from an Apple Authorized Service Provider.
8) ran disk utilities, repaired permissions
9) found a setting in the system preferences that a chat room person suggested had something to do with fan speed. In Energy Saver, under options, processor performance was set to highest, I set it to automatic - this did not change anything that I could tell - BTW I checked my other G5 (a single processor that works fine) that is the setting that that it is set to, and it is nice and quiet.
10) restarted the machine, ..
11) found a Fan Control System Update - but it did not install when I tryed to install it -
12) booted from OSX install disk and ran that disk utility
13) used OnyX to fix disk permissions, clear caches and temp items
Nope - still have the same high speed fan problem. ... PLEASE HELP!!
I have been reading in the MacInTouch reader reports - found this: some one said to use this - thermal re-calibration using the Apple Authorized Service Providers' disk - but that's not available, at least I can not find it - anyone? have an answer to finding this - or can do it for me? I am in Chicago.

The Genius at the downtown apple store said that because it's a "legacy machine" they would not work on it, .. so should I push them?
Well, I personally think that's ridiculous, I'd Push them, I'd call AppleCare & talk up the chain if need be... there the ones that have or should have that Disc... man o man... Personally I'll never visit an Apple Store again in my lifetime, maybe try an independent AASP if none of that helps!..
http://tinyurl.com/ykomqkn
Man-o-man, pop my cork before I explode on that one, if I had anything to do with it I'd close that store.

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