PP3.0 --Problem Project Manager Trim Software Damages Files

I have a problem that occurs when a Premiere Pro 3.0 project is trimmed using the project manager software.
It occurs mostly with non-captured files- with wav files such as narration, music, and sfx (they can be Cd 44.1 files and mono and stereo tracks). Sometimes, it happens with graphics files. This problem occurs about half the time the project manger software is used.
In an affected project, there may be any where from 2 to 25 damaged files. The error message that we get in the trimmed project is “unsupported file formats”.
When we open the non-importable audio files in another application like Sound Forge, they are identified as Raw PCM files. These Raw PCM files frequently have errors-- like random noises. The ones that don’t have errors can be saved as a wav file and then it can be re-linked and used.
It is happening on more than one computer. These computers all have dual 32 bit Xeon processors and at least 3 Gigs of memory.

Could you give me a little more details about using a file manager?
I usually think of a file manager as selecting some files to keep and some file to delete. I don't think that this will work. Many of the files use only a small portion of the larger file. Are you suggesting to keep the larger files even though they may be less thn 5% of the total size?

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With DSLR media being used pretty much everywhere, the inability to created trimmed projects using Project Manager for H.264 clips (and GoPro clips, and more!) is simply insane. Seriously?
Help me Adobe.... please...
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Actually, Kevin works right across the San Francisco Bay from where I live. So yes, he is here in the USA.
You will occasionally get some answers around here from people with Indian names, but we are happy to have them on the forums.
The conversation about how to deal with the various codecs has been going on for some time, and the more people who request the feature, the more likely they will get it done. I don't like to say that the squeeky wheel gets the grease, but pretty much? It does!
I know they are thinking about it because of some of the comments I have seen and emails I have received. It appears to be fairly complicated, but personally, I think it is well worth the effort.
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I am using Premiere CS5, and when I go to project manager and try to "Create New Trimmed Project" it starts and then I get following error:
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Hi, Rich.
I don't have a solution yet. When I couldn't make Project Manager work, I just dragged and dropped my whole project file onto my archive drive. Next time I need to archive a project, I'll see if any of the advice I received on the forum helps. If it does, I'll let you know.
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Steve Pender
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