PPC architecture - Monolingual woes

White trying to save space on my MacBook Pro, I deleted the PPC architecture using Monolingual in addition to several languages I would never use. Then the following happened -
1. Office 2004 stopped working - uninstalled it and cannot re-install it - installation icon just bounces on dock and quits.
2. Photoshop CS3 - Installs but icon just bounces and does not open
Is there any way to restore the PPC architecture without having to re-install OS X all over again ?
If I do start re-installing (last case scenario), can I directly upgrade from 10.4.5 to the existing 10.4.8 or do I have to download each and every update ?
MacBook Pro 15" Mac OS X (10.4.8) 2 GHz Intel Core Duo, 1 GB SDRAM

Big mistake. By doing what you've done there's no alternative but to erase and install. There is no recovery (as the warning said when you used Monolingual.)
You can directly upgrade to 10.4.8 by simply downloading the 10.4.8 Combo (Intel) updater from Apple's download site. Or just run Software Update. It will provide all the required updates including 10.4.8 Combo updater.
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How to re-install PPC architecture ?

I have recently installed and used "monolingual"
i used the option strip ppc architecture
I shouldn't have
I need to re-install the PPC architecture
Anyway can I without a total reinstall ?
Any tips please
thanks in advance

Hi FillBilly, The easiest way is to reinstall the OS that you are using, as knowing what files are missing can be difficult to track down. I'd just use archive and install. Not knowing what user settings may have been changed I probably would not check the Preserve User and Network Settings although you could try it at first and reinstall again if its shown that you still are missing files that you need. Stripping the PPC architecture usually means some system files could have been tossed.

Stupid mistake..Can i restore the PPC architecture??

Stupid mistake on my part. Used monolingual to clean up some stuff and i deleted my PPC architectures. Doing so also erases the Rosetta capability. Is there a way to recover this without doing a full install?? If not will an archive and install work? I would prefer not to have to reinstall all my personal stuff. Any suggestions?

As soon as you restart the system, I suspect your PPC applications will no longer run. The full effect of the deletion has not taken effect, because much of that stuff may already be loaded into the system.
I am absolutely against running Monolingual or anything like that. The risk of a Software Update getting wonky is just too great. Another risk is that a future update to the OS or an application will require something you deleted long ago.
Buy a larger hard drive if necessary, or else you'll end up paying an expert when something fails.
If I have to do diagnose a system problem for a client, then do an archive and install, I might end up billing for about two hours. That's half the price of a new 100GB hard drive! (And my hourly support rate of US$52 is about 1/3 cheaper than other support professionals in my area!)
Whenever I install MacOS X, I use the default installation, with all the printer drivers and language support. We're talking a couple hundred megabytes here: less than one percent of a typical hard drive size. The risk of a problem down the line is far too great to try these tricks.
PowerBook G4 15" 1.5GHz Mac OS X (10.4.3)

PPC Architecture

I am attempting the removal of partial, fragmented files. My security detected my attempt and prompted for my Apple password. Asking Permission to disable PPC Architecture? PPC is what? Should I not allow?

PPC stand for Power PC, these were the types of microprocessors used in Mac prior to 2007 in all Macs. In late 2006 Apple switched to Intel microrprocessors. Chances are what you are seeing refers to apps that are PPC based, these DO NOT run on Lion (10.7.x) and later systems.
IMHO doing what you attempting is mostly a waste of time as the amount of data these files take up are generally very small. If you are worried about space on your internal HD then move large libraries (iTunes, iMovie, iPhoto) to external HD's and your internal HD will regain a lot of space.

Ppc glibc: problem with kernel-headers dependency

I wasn't sure where to post this... After attempting to follow the tutorial Wii Tutorial here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wii_Tutorial I discovered that the kernel-headers dependency of glibc is set to the wrong version. The dependency is kernel-headers version 2.6.29.4. However, in the repository, the current version is 2.6.29.1-1. I'm not sure what's going on here.

DaNiMoTh wrote:
Fixed with release of 2.6.29.4 kernel-headers package. Next time, fill the bug on our flyspray ( bugs.archlinux.org ), we'll correct much faster.
Thanks
ppc architecture is not supported by archlinux.org . the project is supported by http://archlinuxppc.org/
Last edited by wonder (2009-11-20 19:23:11)

I running OS-10.5.8 and when download Firefox and try to open get "You cannot open the application "Firefox" because it is not supported on this architecture. You cannot open the application "Firefox" because it is not supported on this architecture."

The above is my question

Sorry, Firefox 4+ versions don't support PPC architecture.
For older Macs that aren't supported in Firefox 4 / 5 / 6, try TenFourFox for PowerPC's running Mac 10.4.11 & 10.5.8 . <br />
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ <br />
http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list
Or use Firefox 3.6.20: <br />
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html

Getting ahold of MacOS X 10.4 for PPC

I am running a G5 (PPC) on MacOS 10.3.9 and one of its applications no longer supports this OS - so I will have to upgrade to MacOS X 10.4 for PPC - Where can I get such an exotic piece of software cheaply? There are plenty of Tiger 10.4s for sale used - but they seem to be mostly for Intel mchines. I have Leapard installed on an ext-drive but the PPC architecture doesn't recognise the Intel drive.

Tiger install DVDs are in short supply. Tiger is no longer available at the Apple Store but is still available for $129 by calling Apple Phone Sales @ 1-800-MY-APPLE (1-800-692-7753). For other sources, do a Google search for MA453Z/A and M9639Z/A . Also look on eBay. Be sure & buy a retail version (black with silver X) and not a model specific version (gray). The eBay auctions usually end at a price higher than $129.
Also check this web store http://www.lacomputercompany.com/cgi-bin/rpcart/index.cgi?command=dispitem&type= sku&sku=19521
Possible Alternative - OS X Tiger 10.4 Upgrade DVD $74.95
http://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=376&bc=no
 Cheers, Tom

Mac 10.4.11 on PPC is 64bit?

Hi ,
I am having a MacMini with PPC Processor and Os is 10.4.11. I am not sure if it is 64bit or not ? Does Mac plans to have a 64bit on PPC ??

64-bit support required a 64-bit processor. In the Intel-based Mini, that occurred when
the Core 2 Duo model was offered. I doubt the PPC Mini capable beyond 32-bit; since
it had the same processor within it as an iBook G4 14", last model, at about 1.42GHz.
Sources about the Mini hardware specs don't tell much about 64-bit computing. In
the PPC architecture, the PowerMac G5 tower model was capable of 64-bit... in
some forms probably more so than others.
Current production appears to favor the complete line of Intel-based Macs; so if there
is any future plan, it is not available to us (and if it were, we could not tell of it.)
For true 64-bit computing, you'd have to get an Intel mini, it would seem; or a PPC
G5 tower, or new later Macs that have Core 2 Duo or better processors. The OS X
specifications and computer specs in Apple Support may help find more info.
My best guess would be NO to the question. Some software wasn't written to
take advantage of dual core or dual processors, either; so that is another matter.
Good luck & happy computing!

Best way to move from PPC Tiger to Intel Leopard

Hi,
I am looking towards getting a new Mac soon. Right now I have a PPC eMac. That means all my software is non Intel. How does this affect the migration process? I have never, ever migrated before between computers so am pretty much at zero level of experience. Will the migration assistant just move files instead of programs?
I have discs for my software and they are universal so it is my guess that I just reinstall the software on the new Mac. Then move the files over?
Thanks for any tips on how to make this a smooth process.

The differences in processors makes the migration not as easy and other posters have already given you good advice.
I actually DID the G5 PPC Tiger to Leopard migration and after many (unsuccessful) attempts to achieve a stable Leopard by merely installing it "over" my Tiger volume, I ended up having to do the equivalent of "erase and install" (I simply bought a new harddrive disk [HDD] and installed a brandnew Leopard). Despite this, the IBM processor did not really "like" Leopard and repeated Kernel Panics (KP) started to occur resulting in loss of RAM and bus; too many issues having to run many programs under "rosetta". Also, some of the nicer features in Leopard (front row, bootcamp) did not work at all with the PPC architecture. Also Photoshop needed upgrading for Leopard and plugins need updates, too (check with Adobe and with e.g. Alien Skin)
Having said that, I have heard of success stories of PPC and Leopard. (intersting article about "complexity of Tiger in a server": http://ls.berkeley.edu/mail/magnet/2008/0374.html might have a relevance to ordinary OS). So I am not trying to put you off, just giving you a first hand experience my own experience.
I think you need to ask yourself:
1) Is my machine not working satisfactorily? (If so, then why not try the upgrade)
2) Why do I want Leopard (if you fancy a change, why not for it then)
3) Is the upgrade essential? (It is nice to have something new, but you know, I do miss OS9, as that no longer works with Leopard unless you emulate with e.g. sheepshaver (see discussion:
http://macosx.com/forums/mac-classic-system-software/296734-classic-os9-leopard. html)
4) As always, there is always something "newer and better" (snow leopard: http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/)
Good luck with your decisions
NB: I am running Leopard with my Intel Mac Pro and am absolutely lunatic (=over the moon )
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Will Snow Leopard run older PPC software, pre-universal binary stuff?

Hi there
I know this is probably the most stupid question in the world, and I know that Snow Leopard dropped support for PPC and is intel only.
Does this mean that I could no longer run my CS2, MS Office 2004 and Quark 6.5 (as none of these were universal binary apps, and are all written for PPC architecture)? Or is it just SL will only install on Intel macs?
Thanks in advance

PPC is supported, but there are some PPC applications that are too old for Snow Leopard. You should check all that you use for the latest info BEFORE updating. I think there are problems with CS2. It is not officially supported in Leopard, but may work there. CS3 is not officially supported, but does work.
Is there a 'best' way to upgrade? clean install and retrieve data from time machine backup? Complete rebuild? Install over the top of Leopard?
Any method should work if your applications are up to date, and your existing system has no problems. If your current system is old, though, it may have some forgotten applications or modifications that could cause upgrade problems.
The safest way (but more work) is to erase the drive, install Snow Leopard, update to 10.6.2, copy just user accounts and data from your Time Machine backup, and install the latest versions of applications.
If possible, make a bootable backup of your system drive before you start. That will protect you against any possible problems with the Time Machine backup.

Compiling PPC-only on Intel

I only own a Intel-based iMac, but I want to test my customized Torque Game Builder engine compiled as a PPC application to verify that my code works on that architecture. However, when I compile with just the PPC option selected, the resulting program I get is Intel (according to the Finder's GetInfo command). When I compile with both checked, I shows up as a Universal application. When I compile with just i386 selected, it shows up as Intel as well (as expected).
So, how can I get XCode to compile the application to target the PPC architecture only? Alternatively, is there some way I can override the default behavior and run a Universal application as a PPC application under rosetta?

Thank you all for your replies. However, I think there is a deeper issue at play here. For some reason, when I rebuild the application now, it will only produce Intel-only versions (for the debug target), no matter what I select. It seems that my changes made to the project's configurations are not taking effect in this case. I've tried doing a full-clean and restarting X-Code, but to no avail. To make things even more quarky, the debug build comes out as Intel-only, but the release build comes out as Universal. Its possible that the X-Code project file provided by the makers of Torque is somehow interfering with the build configuration settings, but I'm not sure how that could be. Anyone have any ideas why X-Code would behave this way?

PPC pre-install question

Dear Archlinux-community!
I'm very excited by the prospect of Archlinux continuing support for the PPC architecture, offcourse it can only work if we as users install and test thoroughly, and report our findings back.
I plan to put Archlinux on a PowerMac G4(Sawtooth), and have been reading about the procedure. One thing puzzles me though.
On the page http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … _Linux_PPC
The direct link given to the isos works, and doesnt ask for a password.
However, a little further down, it says:
"When you get to the step where it asks you for the mirror address, enter:"
"ftp://www.archlinuxppc.org/"
This link, asks for a password, possibly because its the ftp used to upload data for the webserver(www. in front).
Should i indeed enter this or should i enter "ftp://archlinuxppc.org"? Will the installer also ask me for a directory, and if so, what should i enter?
As soon as i feel confident i have all the correct information, i will proceed to begin the install, but not before! Learned this lesson a long time ago
Thanks!
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Depending on who the engineer is depends on what kind of socket/connector he puts on the end of it.
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I can't find Mac PPC in the nightly builds.

When I go to the nightly builds web page all I find are builds for Mac Intel machines. There are no builds for PPC. What’s up? Is Firefox going to quit supporting PPC architecture with the advent of version 4.0? I hope not! There are still a LOT of us PPC users out here!

PowerPC Macs are a thing of the past, Mozilla will probably never support that architecture again.
For older Macs that aren't supported in Firefox 4.0 & 5.0, try TenFourFox for PowerPC's running Mac 10.4.11 & 10.5.8 . <br />
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
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Your great deal may not be such a great one if all the apps you have are intel ones. You cannot change the processor to intel, and as Allan correctly says, you will have to use older versions of the apps you have, they simply will not run on PPC architecture. There may be older versions of Skype, for instance, that you can download, Google all your apps and see what you can find.

Power Mac G4 sleep mode issue using 10.5.8

Hello All,
If this is posted in the wrong discussion room, let me know.
I have a problem and I am not sure what to do at this point. For reference to understand the problem, I have a Power Mac G4 Dual 1.25Ghz MDD 2003(No FW 800) with an Apple Cinema Display. I also have a USB 2.0/FW 400 PCI card installed. I use this card to connect my external HD's.
The problem I am having is that the machine does not fall asleep properly using Leopard. When I manually put the computer to sleep, the monitor and external HD's shut off, but the fan stays on. When I try to wake the computer by hitting keys on the keyboard or moving the mouse, the computer will not wake the monitor or the External HD's. Furthermore, it freezes the computer when it is in the mode and the only way for the computer to function again is if I restart.
Until a month ago, I was running Tiger, 10.4.11, on my machine and had absolutely no problems with sleeping my Mac. I decided to go to Leopard, 10.5.8, and used the clean install option. I then used migration assistant to grab all my data and settings from a backup using Carbon Copy Cloner.
Using 10.4.11, I would usually let the computer sleep after 15 minutes of idling. Now, under 10.5.8, the computer freezes after the sleep mode is attempted.
At first I assumed that the computer was preparing itself to sleep and might take a while. I decided to wait it out to see if the computer would eventually fall asleep. I waited an hour but the computer maintained the same status with the fans blowing and the front power button light staying lit. And, of course, the keyboard and monitor were not responding.
I read some forum discussions that suggested to people with similar problems to consider removing anything connected to the PCI card. It was suggested that the HD's were keeping the computer awake. I tried removing each HD one at a time to see if it was a particular HD causing the problem. With each configuration that I tried to put the computer to sleep, the same result occurred.
At this point, I am at a loss. I love my PowerMac and don't feel the need to upgrade as my most of my needs are met with this machine. This problem is not a deal breaker for me, but it is an annoying to have to restart after leaving the computer for a while. I know the other option is to shutdown and startup each time I leave the computer for any timeframe longer than 30 minutes, but is annoying and I don't know how bad it is for the computer to be shutdown and started again so frequently. If there is a fix to take care of this problem, I am willing to try it.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
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the power logix thing was really sad. apple changed so much after 10.4.8 that there wasn't a viable way to patch the software.
That statement is precisely why I don't believe in blindly updating the OS, especially in a non-standard machine.
We can't expect third parties to support us forever, and it is shameful to break something that works fine, except that we updated the OS....
I think that any upgrade or modification to a machine or the OS greatly increases the risk of trouble or incompatibility with current configuration and "new" system files.
After all, the component or software could only be tested as far as the current OS version when the component or software was released.
Beyond that, we are all "beta testing".
Following a beta tester protocol, and applying updates to a cloned system drive first, is a prudent way to approach updates, and not only for older, heavily modified machines.
After 10.4.8 and moreso with Leopard, the focus is primarily on Intel architecture, not PPC architecture.
Like it or not, we are all updating to the abyss of the extinction of our machines, unless we can be satisfied with the last stable version of OS that works well with our hardware and software.
I wish they would include the latest pkgs at least with software update.
Yes, having individual packages, rather than lump "OS X 10.x.x" updates would be nice.
This way, one could update as one sees fit. That is to say, for example, fix the Quicktime, but leave my Network alone, etc., etc.
In all fairness, Apple does provide for some breakdown of updates, but I believe there is much room for improvement, especially, as you point out, with regard to the core services portion of the OS.
Until then, I'll leave Software Update disabled.......

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