PPC software on Intel Macs

I have a copy of Photoshop Elements 2 from 2003. On the CD there are Windows and Mac versions. The Windows version works well on my WIndows machine.
I tried to install the Mac version on my Macbook but it wouldn't work. I thought there was a converter built-into OSX to make it work. How do I do this or would I be better with a new version (Photoshop Elements 6)?

Photoshop Elements 4 is the earliest version that will run on 10.5 - and there are reports of oddities with that. v6 works perfectly well on 10.5.
Regards
TD

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Thanks, Lyssa for your reply
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Hello,
Not all PPC programs will run on Rosetta, but most will.
Virtual PC is the only program I know of right off, that will not run on Intel Mac's. But, it's not needed as they can run Windows without Virtual PC.
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I prefer the free ClamXav.
But, ClamXav is not as novice friendly as people are accustomed to. It is better as a limited scanner.
It's e-mail integration is not as friendly, and can be quite damaging if you make a mistake.
But, it's manual scanner, and folder watching scanner are great.
I have it set to monitor everything I download to my desktop.
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Now I know little about software design, but maybe someone who does could tell me if these ideas I had are at all feasible:
Now in the first place I now that, technically, "Classic" mode went out back with Tiger because of the switch to Intel chips. Switching to Intel, Rosetta was required to "translate" pre and non-intel OSX applications, with the exception of Classic since Rosetta does not translate deep enough into the system to do that. As a substitute to Classic, SheepShaver, Basilisk II, etc. can be used to emulate OS 9, but these are very lousy applications compared to Classic mode.
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"I noticed some people complaining about not being able to use Trilogy and Atmosphere on Intel Macs. There's a tricky way to do it that takes about ten minutes to set up the first time and after that is easy. It probably works for other PPC-only instruments as well.
Here's the outline: OSX for Intel contains a layer called Rosetta, which runs PPC software that hasn't been updated. (You might run Microsoft Word via Rosetta and not even know it.) In general, Rosetta is no good for audio software: you can't use it for a sequencer or a recording application. But it's good enough for a lightweight plugin host like Rax, which does nothing but serve as a host for Atmosphere. So you can load Atmosphere into Rax via Rosetta, then run it alongside a UB sequencer like Live or Logic.
The only tricky part is connecting the two together. You need to get MIDI out of your sequencer and into Rax, and you need to get audio out of Rax and back into the sequencer. The MIDI can go via an internal IAC bus. The audio can go via the handy freeware audio-routing utility Soundflower.
Here's how to set up:
-- download Rax version 1.2.3. (Version 2 and up won't work.) You can find it at http://macmusic.org/software/view.php?id=395 . Use the serial in SerialBox to install.
-- download and install Soundflower from http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/soundflower
-- in Audio MIDI Setup, create a new IAC bus. Instructions on how to do this are at http://www.spectrasonics.net/news/Creating-an-IAC-Bus.html . Name it Rhino. (You can name it whatever you want, but in these instructions I'm going to call it Rhino.)
Now you're ready to go.
-- Open your sequencer and create a MIDI track and an audio track. Set the MIDI track's output to Rhino. Set the audio track's input to Soundflower 2ch.
-- Open Rax and load Atmosphere. In the Preferences, go to the Audio tab and set Audio Device to Soundflower 2ch. Now go to the MIDI tab and, under MIDI Inputs, make sure Rhino is the only thing checked.
You should now be able to send MIDI from your sequencer to Atmosphere, and then hear the audio through the sequencer. One last stage is to sync Atmosphere to your sequencer's MIDI clock, so that tempo-synched effects will work properly.
-- Still in Rax Preferences, on the MIDI tab, set the MIDI Clock dropdown menu to Rhino. Close the Preferences window. At the top of the main Rax window, make sure the Ext. Sync box is checked. The Tempo window should say 0, which means Rax is following the sequencer's master tempo.
And you're done. Save the Rax document and you can open Atmosphere with a single click. Trilogy works the exact same way, obviously.
If you want to use multiple instruments from Rax, you'll need to use SoundFlower 16ch and send MIDI on a different MIDI channel for each instrument (using the same IAC bus).
Anyone who's tried this, please post your results in this thread. Especially, try out other PPC instruments, and try using multiple instruments at the same time, and let us know how it works for you."
Maybe one of the Admins wants to sticky this
With my very best,
Vic.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)
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How can I convince the installer that this isn't a PPC machine ? Why might the installer think so ?

Hi, What browser are you using to try to Uninstall/Install FP vs 10.2? And when you Install 10.1, what browser are you using?
There is no Flash Player support for a 64bit browser. I have been very busy on the Forum and have not had time to check on the 10.3 beta. Not sure what it refers to. Have you? Just asking as I've seen it mentioned on another thread, but it's from those complaining about 10.2 not working. Why anyone would want a beta Installed unless they are involved in the testing and are Developers I don't know.
Any beta is a work in progress, so as long as a user is aware of that it's ok with me. Microsoft has their IE9 in beta too, but with an beta one can expect problems.
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I'm going to check a couple of things while you let me know on the above browser info. Also any comments would be welcome:-)
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The app launches and appears to be working fine, but there's a point where it must download some support files from the server. This is where it breaks with the error:
java.io.IOException: null, com.dtint.macutils.AppFile.decode
The corresponding entries in the console log show this:
java.io.IOException: null,com.dtint.macutils.AppFile.decode
     at com.dtint.macutils.Codec.invoke(Codec.java:96)
     at com.dtint.macutils.Codec.decode(Codec.java:112)
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If there are any other logs I can provide, let me know what would be helpful and I'll get them.
I've got no clue why this wouldn't work across platforms unless it was compiled for the PPC processor or something, but then wouldn't it either launch in Rosetta or not at all on the Intel? I'm a systems admin, not a programmer, so I've really no idea where to start looking.
What I have done to this point is made sure I'm on the latest Apple-released Java, as well as copied the Java files from the PPC to the Intel to see if there was something there. Nothing makes any difference.
This would be a major coup if I could get this working... does anyone have any thoughts or ideas about getting this to work?
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