PPPOE over a powerline adapter?

BT will charge a fortune to move the master socket.
Best to get it done when you next move FTTC contracts and the engineer turns up with then new modem etc, give him tea and cake as ask him nicely to move it whilst he's there ;-)

I'd just keep the Modem & Router where it is and Powerline around the place from that. I've got small switched hanging off the Powerlines at the remote end and they work fine.
By doing the powerline in the middle you'll be broadcastin the raw internet packets around the electical grid, fair enough the powerline should AES the data but you'll be getting alsorts of external crap over the powerline, which you'll need to treat as completely on the internet and not be able to use that pairing for anything else around the house.
Just seems a waste of a powerline pair, whereas if you just drop the 'private' side to powerline you can add further powerlines aroudn the house to move the data about.. I've added extra WAPs etc this way to cover black spots for example

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Can someone recommend a powerline adapter that works w/ Airport Express/AirPlay?

I recently purchased the Netgear Powerline 500 Nano PassThru Dual Port (XAVB5602-100NAS) and it works fine when I connect it to another computer in my house, but when I connect it to my 1st Gen airport express to use AirPlay through my stereo receiver the connection fails and it disconnects my internet connection over my entire network. Any suggestions? I'm trying to "hardwire" my network to my stereo because i'm getting frequent disruptions running it purely via wifi.

Let's start over, please, working from the cable modem outward.
It sounds like Express A is working fine right now with the cable modem Ethernet cable connected to the WAN port on the Express A. Test to confirm that the wireless is working on this Express.
Plug one powerline adapter into an AC socket near the location of Express A. Connect an Ethernet cable from the LAN port on Express A to the Ethernet port on the powerline adapter.
Plug the other powerline adapter into an AC socket near the location where B will be located.
Test to make sure that the Ethernet powerline adapters are working correctly.
To do this, temporarily turn off the wireless on a laptop and connect the laptop directly to the powerline adapter near the location of Express B using an Ethernet cable.
See if you can get an Internet connection on the laptop this way. If you can, then that confirms that both powerline adapters are functioning correctly. If you cannot get an Internet connection this way, more troubleshooting will be needed before we can proceed with the installation of Express B.
Post back on your progress. We'll need to know what operating system you arre using on your Mac or PC to be able to provide instructions to configure Express B.
If you have a Mac, but do not know what operating system it is running, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen. Click About This Mac, then look for the OS X Version number and post back with that info.

Roaming Network with Powerline Adapter

Hello,
I have read numerous posts on this, but I am still having a small issue. My setup is as follows:
Arris router set on bridge connected to
latest gen. time capsule (set to DHCP, create network), connected to a powerline adapter that then runs upstairs. The other powerline adapter is upstairs and connected to latest generation airport express (bridge mode, create network with same ID and pwd as the time capsule).
Previously, I had the time capsule and the airport express (via the powerline adapter) each connected to the arris router, but this was causing some issues.
Nevertheless, with the new roaming network setup, the powerline adapter seems to be getting slower speeds or the upstairs airport express is slow. I can get close to 30 down from the time capsule, but half that on the airport express.
Any suggestions?

Powerline is always "iffy". The system can work OK when the powerline adapters are on the same electrical circuit, but things really slow down.....dramatically, in some cases.....when the adapters are on different electrical circuits, since there is a significant signal loss when one tries to "jump"' circuits.....no matter what the advertising or sales guy might say.
The signal will also slow down quite rapidly over distance.
Not much that you can do about that, unfortunately, other than experiment a bit with different AC sockets in different locations to see if one might be better than another. Like wireless, powerline is half science and half voodoo, so there are never any clear cut rules about what will and will not work.
Some users can get by with powerline, but the folks who are looking for the best performance almost always come to realize that there is nothing better than an Ethernet cable with no loss up to 300+ feet or 100 meters. Yes, I know that the running the cable might not be easy, but a good electrician or wire guy can do some amazing things.

TV causes interference with powerline adapter

I just had infinity installed and I have a problem with my powerline adapters, which is next to the TV (it is for the sky+ box for sky go). The powerline adapters are TP-Link tl-pa211 and the TV is a Panasonic th-37px70b.
When the TV is on, the maximum I can get through the ethernet powerline is 14mb/s, but if the TV is off or on standby I can get close 40mb/s (i.e. the maximum on the broadband line). The TV is on a wall bracket so it is difficult to move.
I have tried:
TV in room 1 connected to socket in room 1 and powerline in room 1 - 14mb/s when tv is on, 40mb/s when tv is off/standby.
TV in room 1 connected to socket in room 1 and powerline in room 2 - 40mb/s constantly.
TV in room 1 connected to socket in room 2 and powerline in room 2 - 40mb/s constantly.
TV in room 1 connected to socket in room 2 and powerline in room 1 - 14mb/s when tv is on, 40mb/s when tv is off/standby.
It seems it is the actual TV that is directly causing the interference with the powerline adapater, not the TV causing interference in the electricity line. I'm not sure how it can interfere directly.
Has anyone had anything like this before or is the TV just faulty?

Thanks for you reply. I have tried the TV connected directly to the socket and the powerline connected to a seperate twin socket about 1 meter away and I still get the problem when the TV is on. Also, I have connected the TV to a power socket on the other side of the house with a extension cord while not actually moving the TV and the powerline adapter connected to a socket near the TV and this still gives the same problem when the TV is on. And then, with the TV still on the extension cord to the otherside of the house, I connected the powerline to the same twin socket as the extension cord and this produced no problems.
So, it must be the physical proximity of the TV with the powerline adapter that is causing the problem. So could the TV be emmitting some frequency that is interfering with the powerline adapter?
I actually use a wireless powerline adapter (TP-Link TL-WPA281) in the socket, but for testing this problem I use the non-wireless version (TP-Link TK-PA211). And according to this thread, the BT Hub 3B isn't compatible with wireless extenders. Why is upgrading to infinity so annoying?

Dynamic bandwidth selection for PPPoE over Ethernet/VLAN

Hello all, hope you are doing great.
I'm planning to deploy PPPoE Server (Cisco Router 7609) for a ISP. This ISP will provide Internet connection for customer over Ethernet.
I have to provide a solution to assign bandwidth to each customer by RADIUS and I find some clues that Dynamic Bandwidth Selection (DBS) should be the answer. Unfortunately, DBS only support PPPoA or PPPoE over ATM.
If you have any experience with equivalent function, please help me. Thank you very much.
Regards,
Hiep Nguyen.

Hiep,
I think I have figured this out. Here is the test config on my PPPoE server:
int lo1
ip address 172.25.25.25 255.255.255.255
ip radius source-interface Loopback1
aaa new-model
radius-server host 172.16.1.55 auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 key cisco$$$
aaa group server radius RADIUS-ACT
server 172.16.1.55 auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813
aaa authentication login default group RADIUS-ACT local
aaa authorization exec default group RADIUS-ACT local
aaa accounting exec default start-stop group RADIUS-ACT
aaa accounting delay-start
aaa authentication ppp default if-needed group RADIUS-ACT local
aaa authorization network default group RADIUS-ACT local
aaa accounting network default start-stop group RADIUS-ACT
aaa accounting update periodic 5
bba-group pppoe global
virtual-template 1
interface fa0/1
pppoe enable group global
ip address 172.30.0.1 255.255.0.0
no shut
interface Virtual-Template1
mtu 1492
ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/1
peer default ip address pool GLOBALPOOL
ppp authentication chap
ip local pool GLOBALPOOL 172.30.0.2 172.30.127.255
policy-map POLICE-128K
class class-default
    police 128000
policy-map POLICE-512K
class class-default
    police 512000
Here are the attributes on the radius server, for a group the PPPoE customer belonged to:
Service-Type = Framed
Framed-Protocol = PPP
cisco-avpair="ip:sub-policy-In=POLICE-128K"
cisco-avpair+="ip:sub-policy-Out=POLICE-512K"
Here is the show policy-map on the virtual-access interface the client connected on:
sho policy-map int virtual-a 3
Virtual-Access3
Service-policy input: POLICE-128K
    Class-map: class-default (match-any)
      1000 packets, 1402000 bytes
      5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
      Match: any
      police:
          cir 128000 bps, bc 4000 bytes
        conformed 799 packets, 1120198 bytes; actions:
          transmit
        exceeded 201 packets, 281802 bytes; actions:
          drop
        conformed 0 bps, exceed 0 bps
Service-policy output: POLICE-512K
    Class-map: class-default (match-any)
      911 packets, 1137746 bytes
      5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
      Match: any
      police:
          cir 512000 bps, bc 16000 bytes
        conformed 799 packets, 1136178 bytes; actions:
          transmit
        exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; actions:
          drop
        conformed 0 bps, exceed 0 bps
I was able to generate enough traffic with ping to meet the exceed action in and have it drop packets.

Powerline Adapter TP-Link TL-PA4010KIT - AV500 Nano Powerline trustable?

Hi Guys
I'm considering on buying a new powerline adapter set since there seem to be difficulties with mine (7 years old now so I guess it has had it's best time).
Is TP-Link TL-PA4010KIT - AV500 Nano Powerline adapter startset a good device or is TP-link in general trustable?
Other tips or devices/adapter sets to consider?
Thanks
Bob

Powerline in general is an "iffy" kind of deal since every installation is different.
I've seen installations where TP-Link products worked very well in one installation....my neighbor's house, for example.....while the same models of products did not work reliably in another installation....my home.
But the fact that Netgear worked well for me when I was using powerline a few years ago does not mean to imply that Netgear products would work well for you.
In general, it is probably fair to say that TP-Link products are a good value, so that might be a good place to start.
The bottom line to your question is this.....
You will not know how well....or if....the products you choose will work well for your installation until you try them out in your home. For that reason, it would be wise to have a clear understanding of the store's return policy before you buy.

Powerline adapter connection to switch

Hi,
I have had BT Infinity installed last week and quickly found out that my speeds are much better wired than wireless.
After a little research, I am planning to buy the following two products:
TP-Link PA411KIT AV500 500 Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack
TP-Link TL-SG1005D 5-Port Gigabit Unmanaged Desktop Switch
The plan is to connect an ethernet cable from my HomeHub3 into one of the powerline adapters, and put the other powerline adapter in my upstairs bedroom and connect an ethernet cable from that to 1 of the 5 ports on the desktop switch.
Will this planned setup allow me to use the remaining 4 ports to connect my laptop, xbox 360, and sky+HD box in my upstairs bedroom using ethernet cables whilst maintaining wired internet speeds?
It's going to be £50 to put in place so I'd rather know beforehand whether or not I'm wasting my time with this.
Thanks in advance.

I find the speed is just like wired but with infinity speed you may find a slight drop but will be alot better than wireless. you should be able to connect your devices to the switch without a problem
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Time Capsule + Netgear Powerline Adapter + Airport Express

Any help on this issue will be much appreciated!
I'm attempting to improve my network stability through the use of Netgear's powerline adapters. The configuration I have (or I should say want to work) is as follows:
1. Time Capsule as main router connected to modem. TC is running both a 2.4GHz and 5 GHz network under name#1
2. Wired connection to Netgear Powerline Adapter #1
3. Wired connection from Netgear Powerline Adapter #2 to Airport Express
4. Airport Express is running a 2.4 GHz network under name#2
The connection directly comping from adapter #2 is excellent so I know the powerline adapters are working. I currently have the express configured to create its own network under name#2 and operate in bridge mode with an ethernet connection. When viewed in the Airport Utitlity the AEX has a valid IP address from the TC and has a green light. However, when any devices attempt to connect they cannot retrieve a valid IP. I did get the setup to behave one time, but it appeared as soon as the laptop which connected successfully closed the connection it could not re-initiate it. Its almost like the AEX isn't allowing IP addresses to get assigned to its wireless clients.
I have attempted to both extend the TC wireless network through the ethernet connection as well as this current configuration where the AEX is running its own, but I haven't had any yet. Not to mention constant reboots.

Can you check the configuration again on the AirPort Express?
Open AirPort Utility - Select the AirPort Express - Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the icons
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Same name as the TC network
No check mark is needed next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Radio Mode = 802.11n (802.11 b/g compatible)
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Same exact setting as the TC
Wireless Password = Same password as the TC network
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Update to save setings and allow 40-45 seconds for the Express to restart
Then power off the entire network except you do not need to power of the Ethernet adapters
Start the modem first and let it run a minute by itself
Start the TC the same way
Start the AirPort Express
Continue starting devices one at a time until the network is back up
Test the network and report on your results

Using Broadband/BT Vision and BT Powerline Adapter...

Good Evening, Two weeks ago I moved to BT Broadband, set up the Home Hub etc and all was well with my home network using powerline adapters (Solwise & Zyxel) to connect a PC, Printer & NAS independently to the network. Wireless also worked well to two laptops in the house.
This week on Monday, my BT Vision box arrived and so I connected that up and reasonably quickly all was well with that too.
However, my home network immediately stopped working with the PC unable to connect to the internet via the BT Powerline adapter connected to the home hub. Wireless continues to be fine. I've looked in this forum and saw a post which indicated the BT Vision box could work with Solwise adapters so tonight I tried that, but it didn't connect up at all.
So, my questions are:-
1. Can I connect my home network to the home hub via the BT powerline adapters somehow?
2. If not, can I actually use my other adapters to connect BT Vision and my home network to the home hub?
3. Is there any other way I can set all this up so I can use both?
I should add moving hubs & boxes closer together is not an option, likewise I could go wireless to the PC but the NAS & printer are not wireless enabled.
Any thoughts, suggestions will be greatly accepted!
thanks.

1) Not sure, don't know enough about them but I'm sure I read that Poweline type products are not necessarily compatible, but can't remember any details.
2) No reason why you can't use your other adapters with the Vision box, all it needs is an Ethernet connection, how you get that is up to you. Can't see a problem with that.
3) As 1.
All that said, however, as Esther Rancid used to say on That's Life: "Unless, of course, you know different. Cyril..."
EDIT
A bit of grubbing around took me to this thread on the Solwise forum. Seems like Comtrend and Solwise use different standards and won't work together.

Backing up ISDN with PPPoE over Ethernet

I have a router connecting to a Fleet77 which presents two interfaces, ISDN BRI and ethernet.
The client wishes to use the ISDN as the prime interface to their ISP with the ethernet (20k) as a backup if the ISDN fails.
Anyone got an ideas on the best way to configure this.
mux's out a sat link via ISDN (BRI) and PPPoE over Ethernet(supports 20k).

Yes, you are correct. In this case, you can use below example to configure the "dialer-watch".
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1828/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00800872ed.html
However, as I remember, I don't need the dialer-watch and still work, but I am sorry that I forget the way and can't test it at the momnet.
Hope this helps.

Powerline Adapter Maximum Range

I live on a farm and I want to extend my network out to my barn. Running an ethernet cable is not really practical. However, I do have 120V volt power out to the barn from the main breaker panel box in the house. Does anybody know how far the Powerline Adapter system will reach on a straight wired connection?
Also, all the literature says that the system must be connected to the same breaker. I cannot see why this should be so. It makes sense that it has to be on the same side of the 220V phase, but why the same breaker? Breakers do not contain any signal filters. Or is that just a simple way of telling people who do not understand the two phase nature of household wiring how to avoid problems with phase?
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to do this?
Cheers!

As long as the areas you want to extend your network are on the same circuit breaker, that’s how far the range can go using powerline adapter. Powerline is designed to work if they are plugged in to the same circuit breaker because that’s how are they going to communicate with each other.

Powerline adapter's

I have upgraded to this new fibre optic ( super fast ) broadband, do I need to upgrade the Black "Comtrend" powerline adapters ?, my computer is working ok with the ethernet cabling but my BT Vision box which has an ethernet cable attached to another powerline adapter in another room sometimes does work correctly.
Also I have installed a BD Dvd RW player which can do Skype through the telly, so I thought all I had to do was get another powerline adapter from an electrical outlet shop in Newcastle and obtain an ethernet cable to plug in with a seperate cam, but the "Comtrend " adapters are obsolete now and the shop could not sell me another adapter as they need to know all the technical data that only a geek would know.
Please advise a simple solution please
satch
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Many thanks Keith for quick response ,this is my set up >- Router and Modem are in spare room with computer,mains socket has powerline adapter then into this is plugged extenshion lead for various computing items.
In another room is the BT vision box with BD Dvd player and telly, so I have the powerline adapter into a mains socket with an extension lead/sockets plugged into it to give power to both boxes then the telly is plugged into it's own main socket.
I was thinking of getting another adapter to use in the same main socket as the telly and run an egternet cable from that to the BD DVD player as I have already done so for the BT vision on the other adapter ( getting confusing ) .
Your idea of running an extra long ehternet cable from the route/modem to the telly seems an easy alternative, yes the vision box and BD dvd are very close to eachother so do I just have to ask for a " siple network switch " at my electric shop ?
satch

PPPoE Over IEEE 802.1Q VLANs in 12.4T

I am trying to configure PPPoE Over IEEE 802.1Q VLan on a 2811 router with (C2800NM-SPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(24)T8
PPPoE client on FastEthernet0/0 works fine.
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
duplex auto
speed auto
pppoe enable group global
pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
But PPPoE session is not established on a subinterface with encapsulation dot1Q. It is not even trying to connect to the PPPoE server.
Cisco Feature Navigator says that this feature was added in 12.4T.
Can anybody confirm that 'PPPoE over IEEE 802.1Q VLANs' feature works fine on this IOS?
Thank you in advance!

Below works fine.
vpdn enable
vpdn-group 1
request-dialin
protocol pppoe
bba-group pppoe global
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
duplex auto
speed auto
pppoe enable group global
pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
But the same doesn't work over the subinterface:
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
encapsulation dot1Q 2
pppoe enable group global
pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1

PPPoE over FastEthernet subinterface

Hi all,
I have a FastEthernet with 2 subinterfaces, I want pppoe just in one ofthe subinterfaces. I see good examples but with ATM interfaces, no with FE.
any ideas ?
Thanks,
Luis Miguel.

Hello Luis,
check this document, is this what you are looking for ?
PPPoE over IEEE 802.1Q VLANs
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121t/121t5/dtppp_1q.htm
Regards,
GP

Pppoe over ethernet

Hi all.
Does the pppoe over ethernet supported on 7206VXR NPE-G1 gigabit/fastethernet interfaces with 802.1q encapsulation?
Thanks in advance.

Hello Peter,
I know that it is suported on 10 and 100 MB interfaces, not sure about the Gigabit. Check this document for details:
PPPoE Over IEEE 802.1Q VLANs
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a0080080386.html
HTH,
GP

PPPOE over a powerline adapter?

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