Pram Battery replacement?

I have been searching the apple support pages for the correct procedure to replace the Pram battery. Everything is working well on my G4 so this procedure is preventative.
Can I swap the battery and start the computer up or do I have to press the pram button? Perhaps i have to hold down some magic combination of keys or at start up?
Thanks very much

Some references for you:
[Texas Mac Man's PRAM, battery, PMU tutorial|http://www.geocities.com/texas_macman/pram.html]
[PRAM reset directions|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238]
You don't need to reset the PRAM if swapping the battery, though if you leave the computer without a battery for longer than about 30 seconds (or is that minutes?), it will lose the PRAM memory and will be as if you had reset the PRAM.

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