Pre-configured DNS server in Airport Extreme - normal?

I am experiencing issues connecting to the internet.
My APX is running the latest firmware, and is connected via ethernet to a network in the facility I am working in.
It seems to be a resolving issue, since after typing in a url, it takes ages only do display the "You are not connected to the Internet" error.
The Network Diagnostics utility displays the following info:
http://tinyurl.com/6lew3l
This is how the Airport DNS Menu looks like. I suspect that the grey default DNS servers are somehow supplied by the router i am connected to, but are faulty.
Is that possible?
http://tinyurl.com/5n7ctl

change the IP range on the extreme to 192.x.x.x
You are having problems because you campus lan is 10.x.x.x and so is the extreme's LAN. a router needs to be in two different networks to work correctly.
If the campus lan is secure, you could also use the extreme in bridge mode. which will provide the extreme clients DNS and gateway info from the up stream DHCP server.

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Help setting up Open DNS with new airport extreme

I cant seem to get Open DNS to work with a new airport extreme. The status says I am not using Open DNS and its not filtering anything. I have followed the exact steps for set up listed on their website, checked the dns settings, cleared both caches and restarted the computer, modem and router with no success. I set the airport up in bridged mode, although I tried the other option under setup, but not sure what I was doing? I picked up this router because I wanted easy set up and the apple store assured me it would work with Open DNS. Oh, and I also downloaded the latest firmware update on the router. Can anyone help me with the settings or what else I need to check?

Sorry, I am not familiar with this product, so I checked online to pick up some information. Here I am referring to the information found here:
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6096
I found that your device is mentioned as follows in the intro under Section 1 of this document:
The BellSouth supplied Westell 2100, 2200 and 6100 models (Models A90-210030-04, B90-220030-04, and B90-610030-06/C90-610030-06, respectively) share many features and functions.
Next, I am referring to the information under Section 2, under the heading of Standard Default Mode Connection (separate hub or switch present). Unless you have changed the configuration on the Westell, this is how your device is operating. In this mode, the Westell device is acting both as a modem and router in one unit.
So, an attached router (AirPort Extreme) must be configured as a switch to work correctly. That is what Bridge Mode is....the AirPort Extreme is operating as a switch when it is in Bridge Mode (which would be the correct setting to use when the Westell is set to its Standard Default Mode).
Any changes that you want to make regarding DNS settings would need to be made on the Westell device, since it is acting as the main router on your network.
In Bridge Mode, the AirPort Extreme simply passes that information through to its connected devices. You will not be able to make any DNS related changes on the AirPort Extreme since it receives that info from the Westel device. Some service providers force you to use their DNS servers, so you might want to check with Bell South or AT&T for more information in this regard.
If you want to be able to configure the AirPort Extreme as the main router on your network, and instruct it to use the DNS information that you want, you will need to refer to the section under the heading of Bridged Ethernet Mode ( separate router present).
Please note that the first item under this heading specifies that "This is the preferred configuration when using a separate external router..." (which would be the AirPort Extreme in your case)
So, it appears to me that this would be the way that you must reconfigure the Westell device to allow the AirPort Extreme to function as the "main" router on your network. In this type of setup, you will be able to enter the DNS information that you want to use under the setup for the AirPort Extreme and it will act as you instruct.
The AirPort Extreme would not be configured in Bridge Mode for this....it would be configured to "Share a public IP address".
The next item in the article specifies that you "Must use a PPPoE client on the Router." This means that the AirPort Extreme would be configured to Connect Using = PPPoE as follows:
AirPort Utility - Manual Setup
Click the Internet icon
Click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = PPPoE
You would enter your user name (probably your email address), password, etc in this area. Leave the Service Area box completely blank. Set Connection to Always On, and Disconnect if Idle to Never
Click Update to save the new settings. Power off the Westell device after this and then restart it so that it will pick up the new information that you have programmed into the AirPort Extreme.
I want to stress that this is how I would try to configure the Westell and AirPort Extreme. But, as I said, have not used a Westell device, so I cannot say that this will work correctly for you.
It might be an excellent idea to contact Bell South or AT&T Support to ask for their opinion on this before you decide to change the configuration of the Westel device and the AirPort Extreme.
This type of thing can be intimidating for users, so you might elect to use the services of someone like the Geek Squad at Best Buy, or a similar service from a local computer firm. Perhaps the Apple store could help as well.
If it is not critical that you use Open DNS, you might want to simply leave things "as is", with the AirPort Extreme in Bridge Mode.

Do I have to configure DNS server before configuring VPN server?

Hi,
In my journey to get this mac os X server to actually work...
Do I need to configure DNS server on Mac OS X server first before setting up VPN or ICHAT server?
Or, it seems that I can use my D-Link Gaming router as a DNS server.
I think I'm most confused with which numbers to enter as my DNS... is it the local IP of my mac mini being used as the server (192.168.0.1) or is it the IP address assigned to my cabel modem?
There are so many posts on this, I am feeling lost.... has anyone found a really great step by step that explains how to do this?
thanks
Ethan-

Ethan,
My experience is that it is absolutely necessary to have an external DNS server setup correctly BEFORE you even start installing your OS X Server, so why not keep it. Still, once you have set up OS X Server, you can also use its own DNS server, but be VERY careful to set it up correctly. DNS mistakes, especially the ones regarding server's own IP addresses, are usually not forgiven by OS X Server. Many of us here have learned that the hard way. As for me, I prefer to have a dedicated DNS.
Best regards,
Andrus

How do I get rid of the error message "There was an error connecting to the server “Office AirPort Extreme” ?

How do I get rid of the error message "There was an error connecting to the server “Office AirPort Extreme” ? This message shows up 3 times when I boot my iMac.

I do have a USB hard drive hooked up to the Airport. I've never created an AppleScript for it. Should I disconnect the USB drive and see if I still get the error message?
Thanks for your reply!

How can I configure my first gen Airport extreme?

does anyone know how I can configure my 1st Gen Airport Extreme with my latest Airport Utility? Or is there another way?

A 1st Generation AirPort Extreme is model number A1143. Please check on the bottom of your device to confirm that you have this model number.
A1143 can be configured using the latest version of AirPort Utility in Mountain Lion OS X (10.8.4).
If you don't see model A1143......you do not have a 1st Generation AirPort Extreme. What model number do you see?

OS X Server, Internal DNS and Apple Airport Extreme

OK,
There must be a way to do this. I cannot believe that this simplist of functions to a Wireless Router would have been missed off the new range of Airport devices.
I have an OS X Server, serving DNS internally and forwarding lookups to the Airport which forwards on externally.
Trouble is I want the Airport to connect to PPPoE and serve the guest network with DHCP and DNS but let my server do DNS on the internal network.
Why is there not a simple box in setup utility that says "use this DNS server on the local DHCP network" or something a long theose lines. It seems mad that Apple have overlooked this, I can only say I am missing something.
I have tried setting up a small range and putting in reservations but this limits your guest network to the same limited range so you end up with only room for two or three guests, this solution won't work for me.
It seems stupid to put the ApE into Bridge mode as I can then not have a guest network and I shouldn't have to have two boxes to acheive what I am looking for.
Rant over, any other help or solutions appreciated.
Regards to all
TMA.HA

@MrHoffman
Agreed, the Guest network will not have access to the local range. I missed that part.
In my setup, the second DNS is google server because i don't want the internet to stop working if the local server is not operational, this way at least Internet will be available.
- Client contacts Primary DNS, If it fails to reach it, it will go to the secondary. Well, to be more accurate, the OS will choose the fastest DNS server it can reach first. Ideally that would be the local server.
In a normal day when everyting is up and running:
- Client contacts the Primary DNS (OSX Server DNS), if the query is a local DNS record , it will serve the IP.
- If the query is not a local record, it will send it to the forwarder DNS server defined in the DNS service (ISP DNS or Google DNS)
For the guest network, It would be worth checking to do the following:
- Add a second Wifi network interface on the server and connect it to the guest network IP address.
- On the AirPort Extreme, put the Guest network IP address of the OSX Server in the secondary DNS field.
In this case the guest clients will always try to reach the local network DNS first and then failover to the guest network IP of the DNS server.
@piperspace
Well, a home router is already working as a local DNS server that tries to resolve locally then forwards to an external DNS server when it cannot resolve the name.
Primary and secondary in an enterprise space will surely be a main and a backup and both contain the same name spaces. But the point here was about home use and therefore the purpose will be a backup DNS server for the internet at least.

Static IP-ed server with Airport Extreme 802.11ac

Howdy, y'all, In support of an app for remote users, we wanna expose a Win server using a static IP from our cable provider. The ISP has provided us with the static IPs, DNS IPs and a gateway IP. At the moment, the Win server is on a subnet routed by our new Airport Extreme 802.11ac receiving a reserved IP. If I configure the Win server with the static IP settings from the ISP, there's no Internet connectivity because the gateway IP is a different subnet. When I connect the Win server directly to the cable modem and bypass the Airport Extreme, the Win server has Internet connectivity. I suspect that I'll hafta use a separate switch between the cable modem and the Airport Extreme for the Win server. I think that we'll then have departmental Wi-Fi routed by the Airport Extreme. Any other suggestions? Thanks much.

Do you only have a single IP??
If so you cannot give that IP to the win server.. then you have no other network connection.. or internet from other clients.
But you can simply put the Win server with a static LAN ip set via dhcp reservations and then set the win server as the default host.. all packet incoming to the public IP are then passed to the Win Server.
DHCP reservation on the network tab of the airport utility.
Default host is under Network options.
You will still use the AE as main router and set wan to either dhcp which should work fine or the static IP.

How do I configure port forwarding on Airport Extreme via Win 7/64?

Hello all,
I'm trying to forward some ports in order to correct issues with setting up servers for video games, i.e. I can connect but another can't while yet another can connect fine, etc. So far, despite thorough Google searching, I have not been able to find a solution that matches my exact problem.
The specific ports I want to forward are 7777 and 25565. Currently, my connection is through Northstate Communications using an ADSL modem/router (Zhone Model No. 6218-I2-200-0NS) hooked up to an Airport Express + Time Capsule (Model No. A1254, version 7.5.2). As far as I know, the only reason the Airport Extreme is there is for the time capsule, but I don't know for sure whether my computer is actually connecting to the internet through one or through the other. I didn't set it up originally, unfortunately.
I currently can't edit the settings for the Zhone. Supposedly, typing 192.0.0.1 into the address bar of my web browser should open the router configuration utility, but instead it returns "Oops! Google Chrome could not find <address>." I can, however, use the AirPort Utility for Windows to edit all of the AirPort's settings. I have followed the instructions in this YouTube video to forward the port 7777 using the AirPort Utility: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFad6NvddRk but changes I make to Advanced/Port Mapping apparently do not work because www.whatsmyip.org and www.canyouseeme.org report that a test of port 7777 is either timing out or unavailable, respectively.
I am concerned that the IP address automatically provided for me when I create a new port mapping is not the correct IP address since it is 10.x.x.x, which I can't find anywhere in any settings on the computer or online. But, when I type in the IP address I get from www.whatsmyip.org (97.x.x.x) and then go back to edit the setting I created, it has apparently reverted to 10.x.x.x without saving the address I entered.
So, what am I doing wrong? Do I need to change some settings in the Zhone router before it will work, and if so, how can I access it? What is the 10.x.x.x address that the AirPort Utility assigns to new port mappings by default? Since I intend to use Hamachi to host the game server, do I need to use the IP address given to me by that program (5.x.x.x) instead? As far as I can determine, all my drivers are up to date. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Other system specs given below:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.00 GHz
MB: MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD
RAM: Corsair Dominator 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800)
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1333 (PC3 10666)
GPU: Sapphire 100258-1GHDMI Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Wireless: AZiO AWD102N PCI Wireless Adapter
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
-R

Thanks for your response. I attempted to do that, but I couldn't find any way to access the configuration for the Zhone router. Typing the IP address into my web browser's address bar only resulted in "page could not be found" or "page timed out", etc. I called tech support at Northstate, who likewise suggested that the Zhone router should be set to bridge mode and the AEBS set to router mode since it would be easier for me to configure the AirPort. After wrangling a bit with them over my inability to change any settings for the Zhone, they sent a technician over. He messed around with the Zhone, apparently putting it in bridge mode, and we managed to get the AirPort to work without any double NAT errors. I reset the AirPort and created a new configuration file. Unfortunately, when I went to the Advanced/Port Mapping menu and repeated the original steps to forward port 7777, tests at www.whatsmyip.org still returned "timed out". The technician said he wasn't knowledgable enough about Apple products to assist me any further and suggested I call their tech support or visit the nearest Genius Bar. So that's about it. Any other ideas?

How do i use my own dhcp server with airport extreme

I just bought an airport extreme and I'm trying to replace my linksys router and another access point.
I have my own dhcp/dns server and I want to continue using it. So far, I was not able to find the way to use NAT without DHCP (like I'm doing now with my current setup).
I want to give the device another chance before I return it to the store. Is there anything I can do?
Thanks

I thought that you could figure out the answer for yourself, but if you need more confirmation.....the choices/options that you need do not exist on an AirPort router.
Cisco or Netgear might be brands to look at. Good luck in your quest.

How to configure home network with Airport Extreme + D-Link DIR-665

*hello everyone,*
*I had these two working fine together until the D-Link took a dump the other day. No explanation. Just stopped working until I reconfigured everything.*
*Which then led to my Airport Extreme being unable to connect to the network at all, much less the internet...*
*My home network is set up like this:*
*Optimum Cable*
*Motorola Surfboard modem --> D-Link DIR-655 (via ethernet)*
*- Provides wifi and ethernet connections on one side of my house*
*DIR-655 --> Airport Extreme (via ethernet run to other side of house)*
*- Provides wifi and ethernet connections on the other side of my house*
*My MBP won't connect to anything other than my AE running N, so I have that set up primarily for my MBP over wifi, while feeding an ethernet connection to a Netgear router running B/G, for my iPhone and other devices.*
**So here are the relative details:**
*I decided to start fresh and do a factory default configuration with my Airport Extreme. My working system from earlier was essentially it's own wifi network, but the airport utility 'insists' that I need to run my AE in bridge mode. I've tried that, but I can't get online. I can see my shared connections, so something's getting through, but I cannot connect to them, in addition to being unable to get online.*
*I'm not really sure how to best illustrate this problem, so I've ran through the process again and jotted down a few notes. Excuse the rambling nature of my narrative, this is a 'blow by blow' account of the Airport Utility setup process:*
Airport version 7.4.2
IP address 192.168.0.192
router address: 192.168.0.2
Configuring over Airport connection.
- I want AE to join my current network
-.. connect AE to my network using ethernet to extend or create second network
- select device AE will connect to using ethernet - DIR-655 network (displayed w/ airport icon?)
- create an additional network (through ethernet)
AE updates..
- problem 1 of 1 : unsecured wireless network
wpa wpa2
Bridge mode or share a single IP address using DHCP
selected bridge mode
results: AE has green light, airport utility is satisfied but no connection to network is possible. Shared connections are visible, but unable to access
next try:
manual setup
Wireless mode: create wireless network
radio mode: 802.11n only (5 GHz)
channel: auto
wireless security: WPA2 personal
(bridge mode still active)
(this is the exact setup that worked for years before..)
updated…
AE light is green, but no connection to internet or shared connections (though visible)
back to airport utility
manual setup:
internet menu:
connection sharing: share a public IP address
update
--> 2 problems
DHCP Beginning address: 192.168.0.2
DHCP Ending Address: 192.168.0.2
chose 'assist me'
(now one shared connection to Mac Mini becomes active? Had selected it earlier. Able to browse folders, but not share screen)
AE refreshed now with amber light, with reported problems
Problem 1 of 2: Internet Connection
Your Apple Wireless device does not have a valid IP address. Make sure your Apple wireless device is connected to your broadband modem or local network… etc
- changed IP address to match router IP address (?) Utility goes on to next problem
Problem 2 of 2: Conflicting DHCP Range
This Apple wireless device rejected a DHCP address in the same subnet as its internal DHCP server. You should probably switch your Apple wireless device to be in bridge mode. If you still want to be using DHCP and NAT to share a single IP address, you should change your DHCP range.
- maintain selection: share a single IP address using DHCP and NAT (utility forces you to: ignore; skip; or select bridge mode - which doesn't work..)
- chose 'skip' for problem 2
- updated AE..
New problem:
Problem 1 of 1: Double NAT
This Apple wireless device has a private IP address on its Ethernet WAN port. It is connected to a device or network that is using Network Address Translation (NAT) to provide private IP addresses. you should change you Apple wireless device from using DHCP and NAT to bridge mode.
- selected Bridge Mode
updated AE…
"Setup Complete!"
Unable to connect.
** At this point, I am still able to see my shared connections, and while iTunes is open, I can play my shared library that is on my Mac Pro, which connected to the DIR-665 via ethernet, through yet another D-Link router (DIR-615)! I am still connected to the Airport Extreme via wireless, so the system is working, to an extent.*
*So I'm not sure what to do. How can I remedy my IP address issue? Bridge mode doesn't work (as far as I've experienced), so I'm struggling with my DHCP settings..*
*Thanks to anyone who has any suggestions!*

Hi Preston,
I would recommend not starting the numbering scheme for the IP addresses using a '0'. Yes the range is 0-255, but some numbers are reserved, and not generally good practice.
Also, assuming you have reset all factory defaults, start anew and have the modem --> router using NAT for dynamic IP addresses --> (other side of the house) Airport Extreme --> not a NAT configuration, but you need a simple switch. Do not use the NAT capabilities on this one. Maybe, just maybe the computer will work now. This will eliminate your double NAT and also help (hopefully) with the D-Link.
Sorry I cannot help more, I do not own any of the products you talk about, however I have networking experience. Hope it helps.
--Morris

Server app, airport extreme

I have a MacMini, running 10.9.x, and Server App 3.02. I have a airport Extreme, and it isn't showing in the server app like it is supposed to.
The airport is providing the wireless network for my whole network.
any ideas why or how I can add it into the new mavericks server app.
There are some very nice features when you control the airport via the server app.
Thanks

You might want to try restarting the AirPort Extreme and then restarting the Server.app. We had a similar arrangement and found that the Airport disappeared from Server app periodically (but as far as we can tell continues to operate normally). Rebooting the airport and restarting the app seemed to reliably get it back.
It might depend also on what version of AirPort Extreme you have. Ours is an 'N' type pizza box shape wireless one, so I guess a few years old but not ancient.
We had the arrangement to provide firewall services mainly but recently we moved all the firewall duties to a more conventional router and dropped using the airport in that way. This has worked out ok, but is a bit more complicated to administer.
HTH

Can't connect to a VPN server via Airport Extreme Base Station

My husband is unable to connect to his employer's VPN server through our Airport Extreme when he uses his work PC at home. Strangely, when we had a Dell True Mobile wireless router this was not an issue. He could reach his VPN server via PC, AND our Mac wireless network also worked thru the Dell True Mobile. Is there any way to configure the AEBS to allow VPN connectivity? Do we need to switch to a different brand of wireless router? Please advise.
Mac OS X (10.4.7) Airport admin utilities 4.2

First welcome to the discussions.
To set up the client you'll first have to ask the Network Administrator for the name of the VPN server. The username and other details you will need to log on.
You will also need to find out if the VPN uses PPTP or L2TP over IP Sec. with that information in hand open Internet connect in the Applications folder choose NEW VPN Connection then you click on either PPTP or L2TP whichever the network uses, then click continue in the confiquration pop up menu, Choose Edit confiqurations Then enter the information the Network administrator gave you.
Bear in mind that the OSX client does not work with all VPN's.
You may have to purchase a universal VPN client such as VPN Tracker from Equinux ($90.00).
http://www.equinux.com
Good Luck Don

Best configuration for Time Capsule & Airport Extreme running one wireless network?

We just moved to a house that does not have Ethernet pre-wired so I've had to re-setup the wireless network in a different configuration and it seems we're experiencing deteriorated wireless signal for devices like laptops. It will work perfectly fine (and fast! wheee!!!) but then it will slow to a crawl and mostly timeout. before I reset everything and start from scratch, I'd like some help. As an FYI, when connected via Ethernet to either of these, Internet is blazingly fast… so my problem here is the Wireless portion.
As some background, here is how we had the network set up in the previous house which was working great (although it was wired for Ethernet which made things A LOT easier):
Airport Extreme (4th Generation)
Wireless Mode: Create a Wireless Network
Internet Facing (Connected to the Cable Modem)
Location: Upstairs Utility Closet (with Smartbox and cable modem)
Time Capsule (1st Generation)
Wireless Mode: Extend a Wireless Network
Joined to existing network above, but also connected to the Ethernet jack
Location: Upstairs Office
Here is the current set up we have running:
Time Capsule (1st Generation)
Wireless Mode: Create a Wireless Network
Internet Facing (Connected to the Cable Modem)
Radio Mode: 802.11n (b/g compatible)
Location: Upstairs Office
Airport Extreme (4th Generation)
Wireless Mode: Extend a Wireless Network
Joined to existing network above with NO incoming Ethernet connection
Location: Downstairs Family Room
My understanding is that the Airport Extreme should pick up and relay the signal downstairs, as well as provide the router for the devices downstairs that need Ethernet (TiVo, Apple TV, etc).
So, my question is (and thank you in advance for helping me sort this out!), what would be the best configuration to optimize the Wireless performance in the house?
Also, for whichever device is the one picking up the existing network and providing the router capabilities for the Tivo and such, is it possible for it to pick up but not rebroadcast the signal? I think in this new house we may have a good enough signal from the office, without the need to rebroadcast it. My theory is that in this house, they are too close together and interfere with each other and/or devices aren't sure which to choose so they bounce back and forth endlessly. Again, just a theory.
Many thanks again for your help! If I've left out any information, please ask and I can provide.

Should they be running on the same channel (as with the "Extend" option previously? Or just both on Automatic channels?
I would recommend the Automatic setting on both devices because this will allow each router to scan and choose an open channel automatically. If you want to set the channels manually, keep them separated by at least 4-5 channels. You would not want to ever use the same channel for both devices in this type of "roaming" setup.
Is there a way to limit bandwidth per device (or action) so that it doesn't monopolize the network and keep other devices from using it?
Nothing that I am aware of. It sounds like you have some young users who are likely visiting Bit Torrent sites, which will really gobble up the bandwidth with big, heavy downloads. The Time Machine has to back up the same files again when it makes the next pass, so that clogs things up again.
Backups would go 3-5 times faster, on average, if the computer(s) could connect using Ethernet, but I understand that wires are not cool with the younger crowd.
should BOTH the TC and AE be set up in Bridge mode?
The AirPort Extreme should be set up in Bridge Mode.
The Time Capsule...it depends. If the TC is connected to a simple cable modem...then the correct setting for Connection Sharing would be "Share a public IP address" on the TC. That is because a simple modem has only 1 IP address to deliver. The TC takes that address and "shares" it with other devices by setting up a local network for all your other devices.
If the TC is connected to a gateway....a combination modem/router in the same box that usually has 3-4 Ethernet ports on the device....then that device would be considered the main router on the network and the TC would be configured in Bridge Mode in that case to function correctly on the network.

DNS settings for Airport Extreme Base Station

This month's MacWorld suggests that changing the DNS setting of the wireless device might increase the speed of the connection. What setting should my Airport Extreme Base Station use.
The Computer system says 10.0.1.1 and it works. When I entered the numbers they suggested I get no connection.
Any suggestions?

To change DNS setup on the Airport you need to put in the DNS change on the Internet tab. The Airport will always place itself as the main DNS server to the network clients that connect by DHCP, unless you set the Airport to static IP.. and it will use your ISP DNS server by default.. you can change them if you want. Just type in the new DNS you want to use.
This month's MacWorld suggests that changing the DNS setting of the wireless device might increase the speed of the connection.
http://www.macworld.com/article/2824564/slow-internet-edit-your-dns-settings.htm l
In most cases this is really so minimal as to be insignificant. The airport should cache the regularly used DNS addresses and you can test it by ping to your local DNS or the DNS recommended by MacWorld??.. but honestly a few ms is not going to change the world. To the clients the local network addressing should be still using the Airport as the main DNS.. you can setup manually in each device a different DNS but that can give local network issues as it then has to find local clients by broadcast.
I have a complex dns setup for other reasons.. getting past geolocks..
If I ping my local ISP dns I get
ping 202.76.170.228
PING 202.76.170.228 (202.76.170.228): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=0 ttl=61 time=25.422 ms
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=25.984 ms
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=25.504 ms
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=24.933 ms
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=25.297 ms
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=25.258 ms
64 bytes from 202.76.170.228: icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=24.915 ms
If I ping google DNS. 8.8.8.8
ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=37.985 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=37.562 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=37.715 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=37.639 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=36.845 ms
If I ping the US DNS server.
ping 208.122.23.22
PING 208.122.23.22 (208.122.23.22): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 208.122.23.22: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=187.209 ms
64 bytes from 208.122.23.22: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=187.398 ms
64 bytes from 208.122.23.22: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=186.681 ms
64 bytes from 208.122.23.22: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=187.030 ms
64 bytes from 208.122.23.22: icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=186.731 ms
64 bytes from 208.122.23.22: icmp_seq=5 ttl=51 time=186.967 ms
It is very obvious the best ping is the ISP dns because the route path is shorter..
Google is very good but still takes longer and of course dns in another country is much worse.

Setup Guest Network with OS X Server and Airport Extreme - NEED HELP!

Hi All,
So I have a small business with a Mac Mini Server (10.6.5) and an Airport Extreme. The Airport is handling the routing and DHCP duties, while the Server is handling the DNS. The Airport is pointed to pull DNS from the Server. All internal systems work great accessing the internet and folders on the Server.
I need to setup a Guest network for internet access, so I turned this function on in the Airport Extreme. It sets up fine, but if you connect to that new Guest Network the system hangs trying to open a web page. My thinking is since the Server is the one handling the DNS it is not working for Guest computers since they are not part of our internal network. At least that is my theory, I could be wrong.
With this type of setup what do I need to modify to get this working? Anyone have any ideas?

After trying for days to figure this out I was finally able to get a working solution and I now have my APE providing a guest and main network while using my lion server as the Dsn server for the main network.
The setup is a bit of a hack and does require you to have at least two devices with staticly assigned ip information on the main network but it does allow you to serve dhcp for both networks from the server and make some services available to the guest network such as iTunes remote for parties.
1) delete your custom Dns entries from the Internet settings in the APE and set two dhcp reservations for .2 and .3 (in this case my Mac mini server and my airport express)
2) reduce the dhcp range to only have 2 available IPs (10.0.1.2-10.0.1.3) and save settings
3) on a computer connected to the main network install wireshark and begin sniffing for packets. Connect at least one device to your guest network and look for any packets that have an ip from your guest network (usually 172.16.42.x) once you capture one of these packets expand the vlan information. This should list a vlan ID ( in my case this was 1003. I would suspect this is universal but do not know)
4) on your server open network preferences, click the gear at the bottom and click "manage virtual interfaces", add a vlan that matches the vlan ID from above. Click ok and apply your settings. The vlan interface should get an ip in the guest network range from your APE.
* if you are running lion you will need to install server admin tools before proceeding*
5) open server admin and add the dhcp service. Create an entry for your primary network (ex: 10.0.1.x) make the dhcp range one higher than the settings in step 2 ( ie: 10.0.1.4 to 10.0.1.253) assign this to the physical interface. Make sure this entry has your internal DNA servers
6) add another entry for the guest networks ip range (ex: 172.16.42.x) again set it one ip higher than step 2 ( 172.16.42.4 to 172.16.42.253) save and activate both ranges. Assign this range to the vlan interface. Make sure this entry either contains your isps dns servers or another public dns server. Turn on dhcp.
Because you have now assigned the only two addresses in the APEs pool for your primary network to static entries there will not be any addresses to assign and the APE will not respond to requests. This will allow your server to pick up the work of assigning IPs. As for your guest network, the APE will assign IPs for two host and then stop. Your clients may either get an IP from the APE or the osx server so both should have the same info. Just make sure the two static clients on your main network have the local DNA servers entered manually.

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