Pre test not branching

I followed the Adobe eLearning channel video and set the pre-test action to ......PointsScored is greater than 40 (as there are only 4 questions worth 10 points each). The Action is to Jump to advanced section, or Else jump to beginner section. Yet on taking the pre test pass or fail I arrive at the beginner section. What am I missing?
Thanks Jo

Hi Joanne,
Thanks for reaching Adobe Community. Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience.
I tested the same thing at my end it works. The reason it is not working at your end because in your Advanced Actions Else statement is executing. The reason behind this is you have only 4 questions worth 10 points each and your If statement in the Advanced actions says that its should be greater than 40. In order for this to work you need to have minimum of 5 questions or set the statement as "is equal to 40". In addition to this please make sure you are using the variable cpQuizInfoPretestPointsScored as you have a Pretest Quiz.
Hope this helps!
Thanks!

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