Preferences - Accounts - Login Items : rearrange fails, result is removal

This should be considered a bug report, but =i'm rather new to the apple community (user for a year, but only recently trying to help in forums) i am not aware of a legitimate bug-report tool for apple.
as the subject indicates, rearranging items in the Login Items preferences causes them to simply vanish from the list. I have about 8 items launch at startup, and some of them take a while to load (like iCal) and i'd prefer those to load at the END. the only workaround i've found is to remove them all, then add them one at a time in the order i want them to start up. this is clearly a bug.

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Hi Jared,
You're right, this should rather be considered a bug, as it used to work perfectly well in Panther...
Smart (?) reasons like "this is because of how launchd works" or "sending feedback requires some membership etc..." certainly do not look very "Macish", "user friendly", the way we were used to by Apple's legendary quality.
Here is the place where to send your feedback:
- http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
(and many users have sent the same comments about login items, since Tiger's launch last May...)
Thank you for helping with your own form!
Axl

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Actually, I did further tests and found the following: there are several apps set to launch at start up, and removing any of them had the same effect as NetNewsWire.
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