Preferred SUM in SCCM?

I was wondering how and what others are doing. My preference was always on single package with multiple Deployment Groups or ADR,  since this way I never got duplicate updates reusing the same package and starting fresh every year.
What are others doing?

Concur with Garth. There's no technical reason for using lots or just a handful of packages. There could be some duplication in the actual source files for the packages, but honestly, you should be using cheap storage for that anyway which should be pennies
per GB.
The only guidance I typically give is to not use one big package. If you stand-up a new DP or if the one package gets corrupted, then distributing or (re)distributing the package will be painful. How you organize the multiple packages is really arbitrary
but I generally recommend based upon some calendar criteria; e.g., semi-annually.
Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

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    but i guess that data do not copy from SCEP to SCCM 
    or data do not inserted in database.
    CcmMessaging.log:
    Raising event:
    instance of CCM_CcmHttp_Status
    ClientID = "GUID:EFA60F96-CEE9-470B-8A3D-FD8453D1D7C2";
    DateTime = "20140410103213.874000+000";
    HostName = "SCCM2012.DOMAIN.LOC";
    HRESULT = "0x00000000";
    ProcessID = 2764;
    StatusCode = 0;
    ThreadID = 12908;
    Could not load logging configuration for component CcmTask. Using default values.
    Could not load logging configuration for component FileSystemFile. Using default values.
    Supplied sender token is null. Using GetUserTokenFromSid to find sender's token.
    mpfdm.log:
    PULL:Worker thread [Site System Status Summarizer] checking for *.SUM files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\sitestat.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 12200 (0x2FA8)
    PULL:Worker thread [Discovery Data Manager (Trusted)] checking for *.UDR files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\ddr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 25480 (0x6388)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming - high priority)] checking for *.SMX files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box\high.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 5660 (0x161C)
    PULL:Worker thread [Status Manager] checking for *.SVF files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\stat.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014
    16:42:17 30604 (0x778C)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming - low priority)] checking for *.SMX files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box\low.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 12176 (0x2F90)
    PULL:Worker thread [Software Metering Processor Usage (Site)] checking for *.MUX files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\swm.box.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 17576 (0x44A8)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming - high priority)] checking for *.SME files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box\high.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 10552 (0x2938)
    PULL:Worker thread [Successful Policy Requests] checking for *.POL files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\polreq.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 19480 (0x4C18)
    PULL:Worker thread [Notification Manager] checking for *.BOS files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\bgb.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014
    16:42:17 11276 (0x2C0C)
    PULL:Worker thread [Software Inventory Processor (Site Trusted)] checking for *.SI? files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\sinv.box.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 23188 (0x5A94)
    PULL:Worker thread [Notification Manager] checking for *.BTS files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\bgb.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014
    16:42:17 17444 (0x4424)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming - low priority)] checking for *.SME files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box\low.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 18876 (0x49BC)
    PULL:Worker thread [Discovery Data Manager (Trusted)] checking for *.DDR files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\ddr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 9008 (0x2330)
    PULL:Worker thread [Hierarchy Manager (Forwarding messages)] checking for *.MCM files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\MCM.box.
    SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:42:17 29416 (0x72E8)
    PULL:Worker thread [Asset Intelligence KB Manager] checking for *.AR? files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\AIKbMgr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
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    PULL:Worker thread [Discovery Data Manager (Registration)] checking for *.RDR files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\rdr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 11744 (0x2DE0)
    PULL:Worker thread [Endpoint Protection Manager] checking for *.EPP files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\EPMgr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 25272 (0x62B8)
    PULL:Worker thread [SMS_AMT_PROXY_COMPONENT] checking for *.APX files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\amtproxy.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 26296 (0x66B8)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming)] checking for *.SME files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 25908 (0x6534)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming)] checking for *.SMF files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 25468 (0x637C)
    PULL:Worker thread [State System (Incoming)] checking for *.SMX files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\statemsg.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 10148 (0x27A4)
    PULL:Worker thread [SMS_AMT_PROXY_COMPONENT] checking for *.OTP files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\amtproxy.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:17 30220 (0x760C)
    PULL:Worker thread [Distribution Manager (Incoming)] checking for *.STA files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\distmgr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:18 13872 (0x3630)
    PULL:Worker thread [Distribution Manager (Incoming)] checking for *.DMD files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\distmgr.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:18 30448 (0x76F0)
    PULL:Worker thread [Site Server Inventory Collection] checking for *.NHM files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\hinv.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER
    10.04.2014 16:42:18 27100 (0x69DC)
    PULL:Worker thread [Data Loader (Trusted)] checking for *.MIF files in \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\D$\SMS\MP\OUTBOXES\hinv.box. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014
    16:42:18 2452 (0x0994)
    The machine account will be used for ["Display=\\NV-WSUS.DOMAIN.LOC\"]MSWNET:["SMS_SITE=EKB"]\\NV-WSUS.DOMAIN.LOC\. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014
    16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Successfully made a network connection to \\NV-WSUS.DOMAIN.LOC\ADMIN$. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    NV-WSUS.DOMAIN.LOC is pushing files. Mode must be push. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Cancelling network connection to \\NV-WSUS.DOMAIN.LOC\ADMIN$. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Successfully logged on user DOMAIN.LOC\sccm-installer (Token = 00000000000032FC) and impersonated for accessing ["Display=\\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\"]MSWNET:
    ["SMS_SITE=EKB"]\\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Successfully made a network connection to \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\ADMIN$. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Pulling files from SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC. Mode must be pull. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Cancelling network connection to \\SQLSRV.DOMAIN.LOC\ADMIN$. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    Reverting current impersonation. SMS_MP_FILE_DISPATCH_MANAGER 10.04.2014 16:43:43 5316 (0x14C4)
    statesys.log:
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    *** *** Unknown SQL Error! SMS_STATE_SYSTEM 10.04.2014 16:43:13 25096 (0x6208)
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    CMessageProcessor - Non-fatal error while processing g1a2vm9n.SMX SMS_STATE_SYSTEM 10.04.2014 16:43:13 25096 (0x6208)
    STATMSG: ID=6104 SEV=E LEV=M SOURCE="SMS Server" COMP="SMS_STATE_SYSTEM" SYS=SCCM2012.kontur SITE=EKB PID=6388 TID=25096 GMTDATE=Чт апр 10 10:43:13.059 2014
    ISTR0="g1a2vm9n.SMX" ISTR1="" ISTR2="" ISTR3="" ISTR4="" ISTR5="" ISTR6="" ISTR7="" ISTR8="" ISTR9="" NUMATTRS=0 SMS_STATE_SYSTEM 10.04.2014 16:43:13
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    Thread "State Message Processing Thread #0" id:25096 was unable to process file "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration Manager\inboxes\auth\statesys.box\process
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  • SCCM Get Collection Member Fails "Failed to get members of collection. The SMS Provider reported an error"

    Full Error is:  "Failed to get members of collection '{Collection Name from "Initialize Data"}'.". The SMS Provider reported an error. Details: Generic failure
    Orchestrator 2012 R2 7.2.84.0
    Using Integration Pack 7.2 for System Center 2012 Configuration Manager
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    An example of a collection I am trying to use is this:  SUM - Patch and Reboot Server - 3rd Sat 1AM .  I have tried using it with quotes and single quotes as well and I get the same error.
    The log file for SCCM looks like this when it fails:
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    ~*~*~e:\nts_sccm_release\sms\siteserver\sdk_provider\smsprov\sspobjectquery.cpp(1782) : Failed to parse WQL string SELECT * FROM SMS_Collection WHERE Name = "{Collection Name from "Initialize Data"}"~*~*~  $$<SMS Provider><03-25-2014
    11:34:52.904+300><thread=528 (0x210)>
    ~*~*~Failed to parse WQL string SELECT * FROM SMS_Collection WHERE Name = "{Collection Name from "Initialize Data"}" ~*~*~  $$<SMS Provider><03-25-2014 11:34:52.904+300><thread=528 (0x210)>
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    Execute SQL =~  $$<SMS Provider><03-25-2014 11:34:52.904+300><thread=528 (0x210)>
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    ExecQueryAsync: COMPLETE SELECT * FROM SMS_Collection WHERE Name = "{Collection Name from "Initialize Data"}"~  $$<SMS Provider><03-25-2014 11:34:52.904+300><thread=528 (0x210)>
    CExtUserContext::LeaveThread : Releasing IWbemContextPtr=1862502880~  $$<SMS Provider><03-25-2014 11:34:52.904+300><thread=528 (0x210)>
    My SCCM Administrator and I are out of ideas about what else to try.  Anyone have some ideas on what might be causing the issue? 
    MCITP | VCP4 | VCP5

    Hi,
    may I ask if you modified the log? Because of ...
    Execute WQL  =SELECT * FROM SMS_Collection WHERE Name = "{Collection Name from "Initialize Data"}"~  $$<SMS Provider><03-25-2014 11:34:52.904+300><thread=528 (0x210)>
    Have you typed or subscribe the Published Data to the Field Collection in the Activity "Get Collection Member"?
    It must be subscribed!: Click with right mouse key-> Subscribe->Published Data
    Regards,
    Stefan
    www.sc-orchestrator.eu ,
    Blog sc-orchestrator.eu

  • SCCM 2012 - Network requirements for Client communication to primary in a Cross Forest Environment

    Hello, I have been trying to get some definitive answers on what network traffic is required between a client and a primary site versus a secondary in a cross forest scenario.
    Here is the scenario:
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    trust has been setup. But the remote offices have IP address overlaps between companies. At some point in the future all assets on company B will be re-IP and brought over to Company A domain. But in the interim it would be nice to get SCCM cross forest clients
    working. Upgrading to a CAS model with two Primaries would not be preferred here as this is a temporary solution. 
    My questions are as follows.
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    "But the remote offices have IP address overlaps between companies"
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    Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com | @jasonsandys

  • Setup of PXE boot for SCCM 2012

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    Gerry Hampson | Blog:
    www.gerryhampsoncm.blogspot.ie | LinkedIn:
    Gerry Hampson | Twitter:
    @gerryhampson

  • Shadow Instance Left Behind in SLD After Using SUM

    Hello,
    Is there a standard procedure for removing the SLD information left behind by the creation of shadow ABAP instances when using SUM to update or upgrade systems? Should SUM have some final step for this built in, or should the update instructions include a step to go into SLD and delete the shadow instance information manually?
    My situation is as follows. I recently updated the support package stack for my Solution Manager 7.1 system from sps4 to sps12 using SUM (this was for a new installation of Solution Manager). Afterwards, I used SOLMAN_SETUP to perform the System Preparation and Basic Configuration steps, and now I have progressed to Managed System Configuration. The first managed system to configure is Solution Manager itself, and in working on the SolMan ABAP instance, in step 6, 'Enter Landscape Parameters,' I noticed that there is an extra ABAP instance, DVEBMGS03, showing up as a landscape object node. I was puzzled for a bit about this, as there is no instance 03 in my SolMan system, only 00, 01, and 02. Eventually I figured out that SOLMAN_SETUP gets this landscape information from the obvious place, LMDB, which in turn gets it from SLD, and sure enough in LMDB and SLD I can find the "AppServer 03" instance defined.
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    Regards,
    Matt

    That's right, although for a support pack update, I'm not sure if the jobs even get suspended. In the past, when doing this with SPAM, there was no shadow instance to worry about, so it wasn't an issue. In upgrades, when there typically is a shadow instance, things are much more "shut down" in the system (jobs suspended, etc) than is often the case with support pack updates (though perhaps those should be just as much "shut down").
    So in future I will definitely keep an eye out for it. Stopping the data supplier should be added to the tool and/or listed as a manual step in the guide to prevent inconsistent landscape and software component data from being replicated (or perhaps it already is and I missed it). I'm going to tag Boris Rubarth to get his take on it, as he is a key player in the development and maintenance of the SUM tool.
    Deleting the extra instance in SLD was very easy, and I watched it replicate to LMDB very quickly, and it immediately disappeared upon refresh from the managed system configuration tool. However, it later showed up in diagnostics agent administration, as well, as a warning about a system path not being reachable by the agent (it was trying to reach \usr\sap\SID\DVEBMGS03, which doesn't exist), and so I had to edit the agent landscape paths to remove that as well).
    Although the problem is long since solved in my system, as described above, I will keep the question open for a few more hours to see what Boris or others may have to add.
    Regards,
    Matt

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