Preflight Convert Color Problem

Hello everyone. I work in the preprint division of a printing press. We have recently upgraded all our systems to x Acrobat Pro 10. We run the preflight utility on most of our files that we get in from our customers. However, to knock out a lot of 4 color type, we have to manually use the "Convert Color" tool on each PDF to the SWOP profile. I've tried to adjust some current preflight fixups to this for us automatically, but I cannot ever get it set to correctly convert the colors in the same way that the SWOP profile does when we do it manually. I'm not sure if I should be checking the "output intent" box or not. Any help would be much appreciated.

Could be an Illustrator graphic that is not set up correctly. The name of the PMS color in your linked Illustrator file should match exactly with the name of the spot color in InDesign.
You'll also want to check carefully to make sure your spot color is set up exactly the same in both applications.

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Has anyone posted a step-by-step procedure to convert color PDFs to grayscale? I've unsuccessfully been trying to use the new Preflight dialog to do this. This is the procedure I tried:
1) In the Preflight dialog, Create New Preflight Fixup.
2) Fixup Category: Color Spaces, Spot Colors, Inks. For Type of Fixup: Convert Colors.
3) In the Conversion settings tab, chose All Objects, Using Any Color (except spot colors), plus All Objects, Using Spot colors(s).
4) For Destination, I chose a grayscale destination Dot Gain 25%.
5) After clicking OK, I selected the new profile and clicked on the Fix button, and saved the file.
Nothing happens, and the colors don't change.
If anyone can explain what I'm missing, I would greatly appreciate it.

Refer to Acrobat 9 Help PDF (installed with Acrobat 9 is installed).
Review the discussion for Exporting PDFs in Chapter 5 of this Help PDF.
The PDF is also available on Adobe's site.
http://help.adobe.com/archive/en_US/acrobat/9/professional/acrobat_pro_9.0_help.pdf
Good to know is that the Acrobat 9.x product family passed into End of Support mid-year 2013.
Be well...

Problem when converting colors to cmyk using fixup

The problem is in the fixup -> colorspaces -> Convert colors.
It seems "Rendering Intent" is in fact always relative, although e.g. perceptual is selected.
Am I doing something wrong?
If not, Is there a solution or work around?

hi monika!
no they are just plain old paths in black. and the TIFF file is just a regular TIFF file that is being placed on the bottom layer.
thanks for any help!!

Convert colors Acrobat X problem

In previous versions of Acrobat the Convert Colors dialog could make cmyk to cmyk color conversions from the source profile set in the preferences to the chose destination profile.
This is broken in Acrobat X, but worked great in Acrobat 9. When converting to an Output intent the embedded output intent profile changes, but no actual conversion of the color numbers occurs, so the Output Intent profile is now mismatched.
Why does this no longer work?

"we already fixed it" ... ???
We who? Are you an Acrobat programmer? If so, then you have my admiration because it is a really awesome program.
In Acrobat 9 "convert colors to output intent" performs exactly as the help file describes, and now in X it is completely non-functional for already cmyk pdf documents other than soft-proofing cmyk numbers by only embedding an Output Intent profile that may or may not match the actual color space of the document if it started out in cmyk.
How do you explain the disparity of the Adobe help instructions and what you are saying is the proper functionality here?
I can understand if you wanted the ability in Acrobat to embed an output intent profile without making a conversion of the color numbers. In fact this is a very useful function of the Output Intent panel of Enfocus Pitstop. The problem that this presents in my opinion is the removal of the functionality present in Acrobat 9 and described in Adobe help to accomplish that goal if that is what you are saying.
How am I to make such effective and quick cmyk to cmyk conversions of entire pdf documents without making all of the black text 4-color process if I do not use the functionality in Acrobat 9 or the functionality described in Adobe help? If what you say is true and you inadvertently created an extremely useful functionality by accident in Acrobat 9 that is no longer available in Acrobat X on purpose then that is very unfortunate for my workflow.
I think that you are confused since the help describes Acrobat 9 functionality perfectly.
How do you explain away the preservation of black that occurs in 9 and as described in the help?
Why would you even need to preserve the black if no change in cmyk color numbers is made?
If you convert an RGB document to an output intent in X it converts the color to the cmyk numbers determined by the output intent profile that you chose in the dialog. With the functionality in 9 I could in one simple step convert every cmyk object in the pdf except for black text into any particular press's profile space creating cmyk numbers that would print perfectly with the intended color just the same as if the original document had been all RGB.
So now in X if I want to convert all of the cmyk raster and vector objects in a pdf document to a specific cmyk profile in one easy step without converting all of the black text to 4-color process, I am basically screwed.
How do I put in a vote to revert to the so-called broken functionality or have it added as an extra functionality in addition to the simple embedding option that you now state this was intended to be for profiles in the same color space.

How to preflight a convert colors command

I can manually convert color spaces per the attached screenshot, but for the life of me I can not figure how to turn this into a batch or preflight in Acrobat 9 or an action or preflight in Acrobat X. Can someone please help me with this and explain how this can be done? I can manage to convert the text and lines but the images are not converting like they do when I run it manually.

I can manually convert color spaces per the attached screenshot, but for the life of me I can not figure how to turn this into a batch or preflight in Acrobat 9 or an action or preflight in Acrobat X. Can someone please help me with this and explain how this can be done? I can manage to convert the text and lines but the images are not converting like they do when I run it manually.

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I've had three jobs in the past months from customers. Most are created in Indesign with a variety of graphics and illustraitions (Illustrator).
When I made a PDF and use the PRINT PRODUCTION ==> CONVERT COLORS ==. CONVERT COLORS TO OUTPUT INTENT and SELECT PRESERVE BLACK some of the lines change.
1) Today a customer usinged 5pt stroked curved lines created in Indesign in the background of a page. Acrobat saw them as 5 pt and when I used the workflow above changed them to 1 pt.
2) Another example: a circle was drawn in Illustrator, stroked with 7 pt stroke. The graphic imported into INDESIGN. I exported to PDF and ran the above workflow and it changed the stroke to 1.
3) Another example: A customer created a honeycomb in Illustrator with a .25 pt stroke, imported graphic into page in INDESIGN. I exported to PDF and ran the above workflow and it changed the stroke to 1.
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Oops!! Not until now I discover that under 'Solutions' I happened to write 'untick' where it should be 'tick'! I.e, colors SHOULD be converted to RGB in order to circumvent the problems! I.e it runs havoc in v9 when CMYK colors are NOT converted to RGB! Don't know how I came to write the opposite, but probably I started out by describing the situation where the problems are seen rather than describing how to avoid them.
Equally strange is that nobody corrected me, but perhaps the mistake was so obvious? (But whether you see problems or not might depend on what fonts you use. So, under certain special circumstances, CMYK might actually work without these reported problems.)
I am also a bit surprised that others haven't reported the issue that the PDF version set in PDF job Options isn't respected when using 'Save As PDF' and Acrobat 9? (Or maybe someone has, but I have missed it.)

Convert Colors RGB to CMYK something i don't understand.

Hello!
I'm still "fighting" with maximum TotalInk. There is the problem. Indesign have background and overlaying image with effect - Multiply. So it's extremely hard to avoid not exceed maximum ink. Indesign don't provide normal way to do it and i start to torture Acrobat for that. First step was create Postcript file then distille it to RGB and then convert by Acrobat X Pro (Print Production/Convert Colors).
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Hello,
I found two archived threads about the same problem, but I don't see a real fix aside from a bootstrap. In Keynote, when I "duplicate" a slide that has certain colors on it and then edit the copy, the exported to PDF has some of the colors changed on the duplicated slide, but not on the original. If the the slides are opened in Preview they look correct, but when opened in other PDF viewers the colors change.
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Alright, this is what has worked for me.
First to answer the question whether to use "Export to pdf" or "Print->PDF->Save as PDF" or "Save as PostScript" – I prefer the "Export" option for one reason: this method is the most accurate when it comes to object coordinates (images, lines, etc) AND custom slide sizes, while saving as PostScript is very cumbersome, especially when it comes to very custom, pixel-based slide sizes.
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2. opened it with Adobe Acrobat X (to witness false colors)
3. Now go to "Tools->Print Production->Convert Colors"
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Acrobat DC: Ink Manager no longer works, as well as Convert Colors to Output intent?

I often have to flatten CMYK+spot PDFs to CMYK only. I normally open the file, click the ink manager, check "Convert all spots to process" and click OK. That takes care of it.
In the latest update, that no longer seems to do anything at all. If I preflight the file after following the old process, the file still shows spot color errors. In order to convert the spot colors I now have to:
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Hey SeanL_EPS,
Thank you so much for your valuable feedback. I really appreciate that.
Using Acrobat DC, what happens if you simply type 'Ink Manager' in Search Tools text box on the right hand side and check 'Convert all Spots to Process'.
Also, the option to select an 'Output Intent' from Convert Colors requires the PDF document to already have an Output Intent explicitly set.
You might need to first run the Preflight tool which will explicitly set the Output Intent.
You can also refer the following KB file link from here:
Refer: Acrobat Help | Color conversion and ink management (Acrobat Pro DC)
Let me know if you have further queries.
Regards,
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I imported tiff images into Lightroom 4 that were scanned by DigMyPics.com. The color of the images look good on the Windows 7 photo viewer. It looks horrible in Lightroom 4. My monitor is callibrated, the import develope setting is set to "none" , the box is unchecked "apply auto tone adjustments". I think that the windows viewer is showing the accurate color of the scan and LR is not. I don't think DigMyPics would send this awful color. What could the issue be?

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Yes, that certainly looks like a problem with the Lightroom rendering. Skin tones and red in general is clearly off, while Windows Photo Viewer looks good.
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A color problem in Apple's publishing App

I was wondering if you could help me with this problem，I really need some help，and here it is：
There is a Color problem in Mac publishing applications like Pages and Keynote，including iBooks Author，which really confuse me a lot。
When you use a certain color space（sRGB IEC61966-2.1 in this case）to create some colors with Apps like Illustrator CS6，Indesign CS6 & Photoshop CS6 etc. ，they look totally fine。BUT when you use iBooks Author （V2.0）to create the very same color with the very same color space，colors still look fine in the color panel，and here comes the problem：they look totally lousy in the actual document！！In fact，they look much lighter and faded。（See Image 1&2）
Above：Image 1
Above：Image 2
And this is also terrible with photos you import。（See Image 3）
Above：Image 3
Please tell me what I can do to solve this problem。I know maybe this is some sort of “basic” and “general” knowledge，but I really need your help。And I can't thank you enough if you can provide some effective solutions。

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